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    Re: Iowa State House moves to follow in Wisconsins' footsteps

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    $100 a month toward their cost of healthcare. Give me a break. OMG.

    Now we'll have to get ready for the Iowa unions to try to make their local banks fail and issue death threats. Wait for it.
    $100 towards my health care is about what I pay in my private sector job

    Its a traditional low deductable plan too.

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    Re: Iowa State House moves to follow in Wisconsins' footsteps

    :gasp: how do you survive???

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    Re: Iowa State House moves to follow in Wisconsins' footsteps

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    :gasp: how do you survive???
    Less well than I would if I didn't have to pay

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    Re: Iowa State House moves to follow in Wisconsins' footsteps

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post


    $100 a month!?!?!


    it's unacceptable! it's dictatorial. why, you know who else demanded that public employees pay $100 a month?




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    As a government employee on the taxpayers dollar, what do you pay per month cpwill?
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    Re: Iowa State House moves to follow in Wisconsins' footsteps

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    As a government employee on the taxpayers dollar, what do you pay per month cpwill?
    overall compensation is all that actually matters.

    I'm sure Wisconsin would be fine with paying 100% of healthcare if they can reduce salary by an equal amount.

    so should we compare overall compensation haymarket, or are you going to continue down the road of intellectual dishonesty?

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    Re: Iowa State House moves to follow in Wisconsins' footsteps

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    As a government employee on the taxpayers dollar, what do you pay per month cpwill?
    i tried looking up my mypay; but the system was down. eh, probably around half that?

    but again, your implicit charges here of hypocrisy don't work because i loathe the "health insurance" system that federal employees have. Tricare has been problematic for us from the get-go (when Hillary suggested putting the entire nation on it I freaked. it took me two years to convinced those idiots that the woman on my marriage liscence who was listed as mother of my child was - in fact - my wife). I would much rather get an HSA, like the public employees of Indiana have the option of doing, and if Daniels wins in 2012, then i sincerely hope he offers us that alternative.

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    Re: Iowa State House moves to follow in Wisconsins' footsteps

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    Iowa House passes collective bargaining bill

    The Iowa House has approved a bill that overhauls the state's collective bargaining law and reduces workers' negotiating rights... The measure would force state workers to pay at least $100 a month toward the cost of their health care and would not allow them to negotiate layoff procedures.Backers say the measure is needed to cut costs, while critics say it's part of a national assault on public employee unions.

    The House voted along party lines to approve the bill 58 to 38. Four representatives did not vote.

    Senate Democrats say they have no intention of allowing debate on it.
    Yes! Now they can choose NOT to lay-off the best teachers. Finally, something for the children.
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    Re: Iowa State House moves to follow in Wisconsins' footsteps

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    overall compensation is all that actually matters.

    I'm sure Wisconsin would be fine with paying 100% of healthcare if they can reduce salary by an equal amount.

    so should we compare overall compensation haymarket, or are you going to continue down the road of intellectual dishonesty?
    a better question might be if he would support offering Wisconsin public workers the option to switch to an HSA (which, as mentioned above, Indiana has successfully done). Where implemented, it's proven wildly popular with state employees while reducing expenses for the state at the same time.

    the only loser in this scenario, of course, would be the Wisconsin education unions' privately owned health insurance company, which charged much higher than the market rates, but which the union has pushed politicians into forcing teachers into.

    it would be an interesting test, to see if, given a clear choice between something that benfits workers but doesn't benefit unions, he chooses the workers or not.

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    Re: Iowa State House moves to follow in Wisconsins' footsteps

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    a better question might be if he would support offering Wisconsin public workers the option to switch to an HSA (which, as mentioned above, Indiana has successfully done). Where implemented, it's proven wildly popular with state employees while reducing expenses for the state at the same time.

    the only loser in this scenario, of course, would be the Wisconsin education unions' privately owned health insurance company, which charged much higher than the market rates, but which the union has pushed politicians into forcing teachers into.

    it would be an interesting test, to see if, given a clear choice between something that benfits workers but doesn't benefit unions, he chooses the workers or not.
    The Wisconsin bill does give workers the choice to change to a different HC. I'm sure that's another reason the Unions are so aggravated to the point they are. They are going to lose a lot of money.
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    Re: Iowa State House moves to follow in Wisconsins' footsteps

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The Wisconsin bill does give workers the choice to change to a different HC. I'm sure that's another reason the Unions are so aggravated to the point they are. They are going to lose a lot of money.
    ah. well you learn something new every day. of course they would be upset at losing their captive market.

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