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    Re: 18 Republican Senators now recieving death threats in Wisconsin

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    Trumka's scum Petey.
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    Re: 18 Republican Senators now recieving death threats in Wisconsin

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    I agree! Or, at least I agree with the statement that just because I disagree with something cpwill posts or you post for that matter, does it necessarily mean he or you have done something wrong. We must examine the content of the post and in the case where an individual made a threat, cpwill painted a whole political movement with that individual's crime. That's wrong. That's libelous. That you are unable to see that or choose not to see that is disappointing to me. It tells me you are either unable or unwilling to have an honest discussion about a pretty basic aspect of political discourse: a shared understanding of the facts.
    Well, I'll say this. I believe in blaming the people who commit crimes for their actions, not anybody else. I wonder if you feel the same way though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you one that advanced the argument that the right wing rhetoric was responsible for the AZ shooting? You can't have it both ways, you can't blame the T party that had nothing to do with Laughner, but then turn around and get incensed at unions being blamed for death threats.



    For my part, I have consistently opposed political violence in all forms in this country; apart from being morally wrong, it is also ineffectual. To succeed in American politics, one must align oneself with people's aspirations and speak to their imaginations.

    However, there are cases where people attempt to deflect discussions into irrelevant things and I think this was the case you are failing to link to. Correct me if I am wrong, but, as I recall you were incapable or unwilling to stay on-topic.
    No, it's not that I don't stay on topic, it's that I have a really good memory and I point out inconsistency where I see it.
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    Re: 18 Republican Senators now recieving death threats in Wisconsin

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    so i take that as a no?
    i would say currently the evidence that we do have strongly indicates that it is; and if you have any evidence to the contrary then i would love to see it.

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    Re: 18 Republican Senators now recieving death threats in Wisconsin

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    … Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you one that advanced the argument that the right wing rhetoric was responsible for the AZ shooting?
    No I'm the one who pointed out that violence feeds on itself:

    What comes around goes around

    Also, I repeated the joke I heard about hypocrisy regarding those who complain about being wronged even as they commit the same wrong against others:

    Palin-drome

    Also, I'm the poster who pointed out that painting large groups of people based on the actions of a particular individual is wrong:

    15 Minutes of Fame Times Two

    But, of course, my primary focus after the Tucson Massacre was about changing the law to ban the sale of large capacity magazines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    … it's not that I don't stay on topic, it's that I have a really good memory and I point out inconsistency where I see it.
    You need to back up that “really good memory” with some links or you look like someone with a really bad memory who just thinks he has a really good memory. I think that might be an early sign of a medical condition that's fairly serious. You might want to have that looked at.
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    Re: 18 Republican Senators now recieving death threats in Wisconsin

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    No I'm the one who pointed out that violence feeds on itself:

    What comes around goes around

    Also, I repeated the joke I heard about hypocrisy regarding those who complain about being wronged even as they commit the same wrong against others:

    Palin-drome

    Also, I'm the poster who pointed out that painting large groups of people based on the actions of a particular individual is wrong:

    15 Minutes of Fame Times Two

    But, of course, my primary focus after the Tucson Massacre was about changing the law to ban the sale of large capacity magazines.

    On not wasting a crisis: Limiting the size of handgun magazines




    You need to back up that “really good memory” with some links or you look like someone with a really bad memory who just thinks he has a really good memory. I think that might be an early sign of a medical condition that's fairly serious. You might want to have that looked at.
    I just hope every one who reads this actually follows the links you provided. Your links proved what I say. You blame Fuller on the T party by suggesting the T party was just getting what comes around, but then want to divorce Fuller from the left. Goes to show you, my memory is just fine.
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    Re: 18 Republican Senators now recieving death threats in Wisconsin

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I just hope every one who reads this actually follows the links you provided. …
    I hope people read my blog, too! Thanks for the recommendation.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Your links proved what I say. You blame Fuller on the T party by suggesting the T party was just getting what comes around, but then want to divorce Fuller from the left. Goes to show you, my memory is just fine.
    Eric Fuller, a gun shot survivor of the Tucson Massacre, certainly blamed the Tea Party for the violence committed against himself and his congresswoman. I think he was wrong about that. Jared Lee Loughner was a paranoid schizophrenic his violent delusions were based entirely on his illness.

    The Tea Party members' angry, intimidating and disruptive language at political town hall meetings in 2009 and 2010 is well documented. Eric Fuller's angry, threatening language at ABC News' town hall meeting seemed like more of the same. I see it as a continuum: what comes around, goes around. It's like a drunken, stupid brawl that escalates into gun play. I thought I was being clear in that and I regret you misread my meaning.

    You asked, “Weren't you one that advanced the argument that the right wing rhetoric was responsible for the AZ shooting?” I offered things I did say and then I asked you to provide proof of your claim. You have so far failed to do so. I take that as your concession that you memory is indeed flawed.
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    Re: 18 Republican Senators now recieving death threats in Wisconsin

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    hmmm...any proof that these threats were made by the public unions or their members cp?
    It could have been the Taliban, right?
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    Re: 18 Republican Senators now recieving death threats in Wisconsin

    This doesn't surprise me in the least. It isn't the public employees. It is the criminals running the unions. When you come between a criminal and his ill-gotten gains, one can expect just about any type behavior.

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