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    Re: Westboro attorney: Obama is "The Beast from Revelatons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    You know what, don't do that. What you should do instead is actually be respectful, show his family that you're not like them. In fact, even pay him respects, for no one has ever done more for the gay rights movement
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    Re: Westboro attorney: Obama is "The Beast from Revelatons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    But thats no fun
    I know, but think about it this way. Whats sends a more powerful message.

    Being just as disrespectful to him as he was to others.

    Or lining the hearse route just watching it go by in silence with no plaquards or anything...

    Showing him and his family just how wrong they are about you.

    Maybe that's just my "Madiba" philosophy coming out. But forgiveness is a very powerful weapon. You know as i said, he's probably a self loather, and you get behind the face and the hate and you might just find his story tragic...

    Or not. Who knows. But still, really think about it

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    Re: Westboro attorney: Obama is "The Beast from Revelatons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I know, but think about it this way. Whats sends a more powerful message.

    Being just as disrespectful to him as he was to others.

    Or lining the hearse route just watching it go by in silence with no plaquards or anything...

    Showing him and his family just how wrong they are about you.

    Maybe that's just my "Madiba" philosophy coming out. But forgiveness is a very powerful weapon. You know as i said, he's probably a self loather, and you get behind the face and the hate and you might just find his story tragic...

    Or not. Who knows. But still, really think about it
    I wasn't suggesting that's what people should do, just what I think they will do, and I'd be a liar if I said I wouldn't find it entertaining. I think your gesture would have much greater impact though. You're clearly a much better human being than me.
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    Re: Westboro attorney: Obama is "The Beast from Revelatons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I wasn't suggesting that's what people should do, just what I think they will do, and I'd be a liar if I said I wouldn't find it entertaining. I think your gesture would have much greater impact though. You're clearly a much better human being than me.
    Oh sorry blue I didn't actually see your post, just kinda replied to star and Dan.

    Its just a difference in philosophy, i don't think it makes me a better human being. I'm not gay even though for me gay rights is something im very serious about I don't know what it's like to have that kind of hate directed at me for being who I am. So i cant blame you for feeling the way you feel about it.

    My school of thought when it comes to things like this though is to try and understand WHY they do what they do. And in doing that its scary because you'll find sometimes its literally one life event that sparks what becomes a lifetimes worth of hate and for what?

    Imagine for a second this possible scenario.

    Fred phelps in the 60s maybe taking a little of the LSD, doing what 60s folks did... Maybe he experimented with another man, and maybe that man broke his heart.

    Maybe as a young man he kissed a boy and his dad found out and did something terrible to him and he hated that part of himself afterwards and reflected it against others.

    Now againt it's all speculation. But its interesting how that level of hatred for someone, often has a directly proportionate opposite.

    Think about it this way what did MLK junior do to anyone? All he preached was love and understanding. But directly opposite someone felt so much hate for that man they shot him in the head...

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    Re: Westboro attorney: Obama is "The Beast from Revelatons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I know, but think about it this way. Whats sends a more powerful message.

    Being just as disrespectful to him as he was to others.

    Or lining the hearse route just watching it go by in silence with no plaquards or anything...

    Showing him and his family just how wrong they are about you.

    Maybe that's just my "Madiba" philosophy coming out. But forgiveness is a very powerful weapon. You know as i said, he's probably a self loather, and you get behind the face and the hate and you might just find his story tragic...

    Or not. Who knows. But still, really think about it
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    Re: Westboro attorney: Obama is "The Beast from Revelatons"

    The point here should be to view this intellectually, not emotionally. The family and friends of ANY deceased have the right to observe the passing of their family member/friend with a degree of privacy and respect. This kind of demonstration tramples all over that common decency right. It's not a right in the Constitution or codified to law and shouldn't have to be. It's an inalienable right any human being should be entitled to, because he/she is a human being and in that respect is the same as all of us. And in a democratic society even moreso. These Westboro idiots know precisely what they are doing and understand very well that since their first encounter with the media, that the media will clamor to their side to give them publicity. That's what they're all about. Keeping their decidedly minority and unpopular view in the limelight and screaming forth via media exposure. It gives then a reason to go on. They want to offend our sensibilities.

    If Fred Phelps were to have a massive coronary and drop dead I might be sorely tempted to demonstrate with great vigor at his funeral as a 'get even' emotional release, but I damned well would pause and reflect and NOT elect to do so knowing that in doing so I'd be as bad as he was.
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    Re: Westboro attorney: Obama is "The Beast from Revelatons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well don't. Fox gives them airtime because having a shouting match with wackoes makes great TV. It also makes Fox look less extremist itself. There's method in it.

    I'm just looking forward to the enormous mass rally and chanting that will accompany the funeral of Fred 'Fritzl' Phelps. They won't hear a thing between 'Dearly Beloved....' and 'Amen.'
    FOX puts them on, to make FOX look less 'extremist'? Wow... just..... wow.

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    Re: Westboro attorney: Obama is "The Beast from Revelatons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    FOX puts them on, to make FOX look less 'extremist'? Wow... just..... wow.
    That's what I said Gallifreyan. It allows their PR pods to say, "You think we're right-wing nut-jobs, what about these guys?"
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    Re: Westboro attorney: Obama is "The Beast from Revelatons"

    I love how were so used to accusations of Obama being the anti-christ by now that no one even talks about that
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    Re: Westboro attorney: Obama is "The Beast from Revelatons"

    Obama will be king of the world.

    I don't know the interwebz acronym that has enough rflmao to convey my reaction to this prediction.
    I may be wrong.

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