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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    No offense, but you're coming off as a really poor teacher.
    none taken

    my status as a teacher isn't much of an issue outside my district (nor inside it, since you're so interested)

    the state of public education, in crying contrast, is

    an issue, that is, and coast to coast

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by Nevergolfpar View Post
    I would allow you to teach my children any day.
    thank you very much, sir, it would be an honor

    in my class, we do MATH

    politics is for chatrooms

    you understand

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    none taken

    my status as a teacher isn't much of an issue outside my district (nor inside it, since you're so interested)

    the state of public education, in crying contrast, is

    an issue, that is, and coast to coast

    stay up
    You submit your personal experience as a barometer, and I respect that. My own experiences greatly color my opinions.

    For example, I went to a conference a couple years ago in Chicago. My company footed the tuition (a couple hundred bucks a head) and paid mileage. I attended eight classes over a two-day period, and it was interesting. I learned quite a bit. A small group among us played hooky and day two and instead explored the city -- understandable, as all of us from out of town felt the draw.

    My point is that some of us chose to use our comapny's resources to their fullest. Others didn't. What we got out of that opportunity was dependent greatly on our individual attitudes and motivations.

    I'm wondering whether you believe your experience is typical and whether many of your colleagues use the opportunities available to them differently than you might choose to.

    Of course, you may be a brilliant classroom teacher. I have no way of knowing from this end of the intertube.

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    I'm wondering whether you believe your experience is typical
    as common as the coin of the realm, friend

    "where are you on the schedule," "you need to move over," "if you do it later instead of now you're throwing money away," "max out as soon as you can," "try fresno pacific..."

    that's the industry

    hey, they MADE me take clad, i had to work for those, probably 12 hours of note taking for every 3 semester units

    didn't translate to effective teaching, most of us would say

    but esl's need their sdaie, y'know

    it's the standard

    bics transfer but calps don't

    of course, the state has moved off clad by now

    typical

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    thank you very much, sir, it would be an honor

    in my class, we do MATH

    politics is for chatrooms

    you understand

    take care, cliff
    Math!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally a classroom in America that stresses math (I hope science is being taught in the room next to yours) and does not cover politics. Politics should be a matter of self-discovery as opposed to a matter of indoctrination. To many school districts across America attempt to indoctrinate as opposed to teach and that is another problematic variable explaining the continuing decline of our educational system as a whole.

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Their pensions are higher because they negotiated higher benefits with the taxpayer's representatives in exchange for the lower salaries they have. Their total compensation is no higher than in the private sector for the same education level. By eliminating collective bargaining you are reducing the capability to not only provide a compensation to attract and retain the best and brightest, but you are also committing schools to continued problems of high student to teacher ratios and decreased instruction time.

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    as common as the coin of the realm, friend

    "where are you on the schedule," "you need to move over," "if you do it later instead of now you're throwing money away," "max out as soon as you can," "try fresno pacific..."

    that's the industry

    hey, they MADE me take clad, i had to work for those, probably 12 hours of note taking for every 3 semester units

    didn't translate to effective teaching, most of us would say

    but esl's need their sdaie, y'know

    it's the standard

    bics transfer but calps don't

    of course, the state has moved off clad by now

    typical

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    A lot of that jargon is lost on me. Do your colleagues generally support teachers unions? And how much do you think a school teacher be paid relative to education level?

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well naturally, everyone does better when unions are around, the kids, the teachers, the public....it's a beautiful thing.

    But better to go with whichever state is willing to have the stupidest kids wins, right?
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    compensation is pay, so how can "after pay", be pay?
    don't know where you are getting your numbers, but not all states are the same. The state of AZ/Peoria School district didn't contribute one dime to her retirement. They paid her health care insurance but to add family was about $1,000 per MONTH....
    Any classes she took for advancement purposes or to enhance skills were also out of her own pocket.
    Wisconsin, Illinois, NY, etc. are not representative of the entire USA.

    $59,000 is pay. After pay / compensation is about $101,000 that includes benefits.
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Do your colleagues generally support teachers unions?
    yes, school teachers are overwhelmingly liberal here in northern california

    i have been apprised all my long career that the portion of my dues devoted to politcal action can be returned to me upon my writing of a letter

    i and virtually every conservative i've taught with (there have been a decent number) have felt it best for our careers not to go that route

    i've never known a teacher to ask for his or her political dues to be returned

    And how much do you think a school teacher be paid relative to education level?
    significantly less than we get now

    but i aint giving any of it back, call me what you will

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