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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    $59,500 isn't that much more than the national average. So it doesn't shock me like it's supposed to.

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Actually, I think this is completely appropriate compensation.
    You think $100K is appropriate compensation for a position that typically recruits from the bottom third of college grads, has almost total job security regardless of performance, and requires something like 35 hours per week, for 36 weeks per year?

    Give me a freaking break. I didn't earn that much for the first couple years after I had my freaking MBA and was $150K in debt from school...and I was working a lot more hours than that, at a position that required a lot more work/training.
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    ALright man...... teachers hardly do any work. They are there for SIX hours a day! Thats 30 hours a WEEK! They are off around 2 days a month for whatever lame holiday comes around. Then they have THREE MONTHS OFF!!! Their job is EASY! At least 3 out of 10 people could walk in and do their job with ZERO training.
    You know why its hard to get a teachers position? Because everyone and their cousin wants to be one! So they made it more difficult in Illinois to qualify. My friend Rob is a teacher. He used to be a retail book store manager. He said that was TWICE as difficult.

    Lets not even get into how difficult it is to fire a crappy teacher! Or their INSANE pensions! Beginning teachers should make no more than $27K a year and after ten years make no more than $37K a year. Now divide that salary by NINE...... NOT 12 since they only work 9 months. Plus they need to pay 20% of their benefits.
    I said this to you a year ago when you went on one of these anti-teacher rampages. This denotes that you have no idea what a teacher does. Their job is NOT easy, they get paid for NINE months, not twelve, and they perform one of the most important tasks there is: educating our children.

    I am really uninterested in whatever your personal vendetta towards teachers is... and your railing against them certainly comes across as personal. Regardless, I don't see anything in your posts that has any accuracy. The only thing I agree with is that it needs to be far easier to fire bad teachers. Other than that, the rest of your post is invalid.
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    $59,500 isn't that much more than the national average. So it doesn't shock me like it's supposed to.

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    The $59K is not the shocking part. To me that seems a bit more than what teachers are worth, but I'm not going to make a big fuss about it. The real shocking number is the $42K in benefits every year. That is absurd.
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You think $100K is appropriate compensation for a position that typically recruits from the bottom third of college grads, has almost total job security regardless of performance, and requires something like 35 hours per week, for 36 weeks per year?

    Give me a freaking break. I didn't earn that much for the first couple years after I had my freaking MBA and was $150K in debt from school...and I was working a lot more hours than that, at a position that required a lot more work/training.
    Really, we should move to the finnish model of recruiting teachers and pay them well, but also have experts with tons of autonomy.

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You think $100K is appropriate compensation for a position that typically recruits from the bottom third of college grads, has almost total job security regardless of performance, and requires something like 35 hours per week, for 36 weeks per year?

    Give me a freaking break. I didn't earn that much for the first couple years after I had my freaking MBA and was $150K in debt from school...and I was working a lot more hours than that, at a position that required a lot more work/training.
    Absolutely. We are talking total package compensation. Like I said, the only issue that I have with teachers is the problem with getting rid of bad ones. Beyond that, their contribution and impact to society is more important that most other professions.
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Comparable, if not somewhat higher.
    Me too, unfortunately it is significantly lower than that.
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I said this to you a year ago when you went on one of these anti-teacher rampages. This denotes that you have no idea what a teacher does. Their job is NOT easy, they get paid for NINE months, not twelve,
    That makes it even worse. If they're getting paid $100K for nine months, then the REAL annualized cost to the taxpayers is closer to $130K.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy
    and they perform one of the most important tasks there is: educating our children.
    The driving factor in ALL government salaries should be supply and demand. The fact that they are performing a task that you deem important is irrelevant to the fact that there are plenty of qualified teachers out there.

    This argument might have some merit if paying teachers such exorbitant salaries actually meant that more capable teachers would be recruited and student performance would improve...but it does not, because the unions also ensure that there is no merit pay and no one ever gets fired for anything.
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The $59K is not the shocking part. To me that seems a bit more than what teachers are worth, but I'm not going to make a big fuss about it. The real shocking number is the $42K in benefits every year. That is absurd.
    How does it compare to other compensation packages?
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That makes it even worse. If they're getting paid $100K for nine months, then the REAL annualized cost to the taxpayers is closer to $130K
    If the cost is 100k/yr then the cost is 100k/yr. You can't annualize something that's already annual. It just don't make no sense.
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