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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

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    Well, hell, if you are going to say that ALL teachers are in Illinois, OK, I have to agree with you.....
    Everybody knows Illinois has a lot of corruption, doesn't scale up to the whole country, tho.

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    They should be getting paid what teachers do if not a tad more. They deserve it.
    SR enlisted with 20+ years in are getting paid roughly comparable amounts. Base Pay for an E8 at 20 years is $4568 a month, with a monthly allowance for housing (assuming dependents and living in Milwaulkee) of an additional $1320. BAS (basic allowance for sustinance; what the military pays you to feed your family) would be another $323. So a pre-tax income of about $74,300 per anum. Add in subsidized health and life insurance (we pay, but it's very little - maybe 3%), and other miscelaneous items (you don't have to pay for glasses, when you deploy you make danger pay, force seperation allowance, etc), and I could see it being about-ish the same.

    not that I don't agree that Teachers' salaries are out of whack; the AVERAGE teacher making a comparable income as the narrow amount of our TOP enlisted personnel isn't exactly an apples-to-apples comparison

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Your logic on this makes no sense at all.
    Now if the unions actually CARED about those kids (which they dont)
    Former American Federation of Teachers president, the late Albert Shanker, said it best when he said, “When school children start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of school children.”



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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    SR enlisted with 20+ years in are getting paid roughly comparable amounts. Base Pay for an E8 at 20 years is $4568 a month, with a monthly allowance for housing (assuming dependents and living in Milwaulkee) of an additional $1320. BAS (basic allowance for sustinance; what the military pays you to feed your family) would be another $323. So a pre-tax income of about $74,300 per anum. Add in subsidized health and life insurance (we pay, but it's very little - maybe 3%), and other miscelaneous items (you don't have to pay for glasses, when you deploy you make danger pay, force seperation allowance, etc), and I could see it being about-ish the same.

    not that I don't agree that Teachers' salaries are out of whack; the AVERAGE teacher making a comparable income as the narrow amount of our TOP enlisted personnel isn't exactly an apples-to-apples comparison
    you only pay 3% toward your health and life iinsurance?YOUR SCREWING THE TAXPAYER!! CADILLAC BENEFITS!!! ok, rant over if you stay in 20yrs, you deserve it.

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Former American Federation of Teachers president, the late Albert Shanker, said it best when he said, “When school children start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of school children.”


    The union administration should absolutely be all about teachers. I don't see a problem there.

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Yeah, Noodle, I would absolutely love to see how long you would last in a teaching job. As someone who grew up with a father who taught (though he no longer teaches, it was one of his many jobs), the claim that any schmo off the street could do it is completely nuts.

    Not only is an in-depth knowledge of a variety of fields required, some knowledge of psychology comes into play. If your friend thinks it's a cushy job, he's probably a bad teacher.

    Also, the time they spend working vs. the amount of time they spend at the school is in no way comparable unless they have nothing even vaguely resembling a lesson plan.

    When we start paying our teachers salaries that you can earn at Best Buy or Target, we'll start getting the same quality we expect from the people working there. Not to mention, I know plenty of teachers (my roommate's BF is currently working to become one) and not a single one is motivated by the pay.
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Sounds like a failed educator to me . . .
    Aiming high and falling short is not failing. Aiming low and hitting the mark is not success.
    The same educators who taught me also taught my younger brother and older sister. Their poor education is not their fault. They succeeded with me, but I am smarter than my siblings. I didn't fail 3rd grade, fractions weren't hard for me, and I liked to read. School was easy for me.
    Any teacher I had was a good teacher, because I didn't have learning disabilities, but I did have a good attitude towards learning.
    My sibling's teachers were poor teachers, because my siblings didn't learn.
    Funny part of that is, they were the SAME teachers....
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

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    Gotta head home from work. Until I log back on, later... Noodle is in charge.

    Hopefully he will sleep thru the night not knowing he is in charge. No telling what kind of damage he might do.
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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Teaching a group requires a different skillset over teaching one on one.



    As with Noodle, I would dare you try give it a try before making such claims.
    What skill set would that be? The ability to communicate in a clear and effective manner? A complete understanding of the subject matter being taught? What exactly is so different about teaching a person one on one verses teaching a group? Then again if that skill set is the payment of regular weekly union dues...you're right, I do not have such a skill set.

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    Re: $101,091: Annual Compensation for Average Milwaukee Teacher

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The skillset required to be a teacher over time is different than the skillset require to teach someone something.
    Huh? Are you kidding me? From what you are stating, the three years my boss has spent grooming me is more akin to teaching than a class of students who are with any given teacher for a period of only 8 months. So if time is the important ingredient to qualify one as a 'teacher' then I suppose the teachers of America are not in fact teachers? Is that what you are saying?

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