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Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

Really scratching there. You've back a loser--liars and cheats aren't respected outside unions--and you're trying to save face.

Attacking me will not magically place the language in the article which is still not there.
 
You want to hold your breath? Its your funeral.

Does the term....... MESSIAH ...... mean anything to you?




The rare times i have used the term it was in response to true believers who see obama as nothing short of the 2nd coming... Quite some time ago as well. And it talks about true believers, not obama.




So you lied, in an effort to excuse a lack of class and failed miserably. Noted.
 
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More progressive employers have rejected the medieval "sick day" concept in favor of simply time away from work based on a contractual reward for time served on the job or a matter of an agreed upon contract clause.
I wonder if they tried to explain that to the 174 developmentally disabled adults who depend on the county's services and who ended up "waiting for buses that never came" ---

If these guys needed a "contractual reward for time served on the job" and couldn't give a few days notice, perhaps they should find a job oiling windmills or counting endagered river slugs -- you know, somewhere where they won't be missed.
 
Can someone let me know if Haymarket finds his contract language that says, "Employees can lie and take off sick whenever they feel like it." Until then, good night.
 
The rare times i have used the term it was in response to true believers who see obama as nothing short of the 2nd coming... Quite some time ago as well. And it talks about true believers, not obama.




So you lied, in an effort to excuse a lack of class and failed miserably. Noted.

You would know the truth if it bit you in the rear.

YOU Rev - Y...O....U .... you started a thread for heavens sake CALLING Obama the messiah. YOU. It seems to be your favorite pet term for him.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/38287-obama-messiah-sightings-thread.html

And you still have the third grade habit of having to tell the world that you win and your enemies lose - not having the faith to allow the arguments to convince anyone.

as for your continual whine about people lying just because you don't like what they say.... this goes back some but it was post of the month then and it still rings true today

Obvious Child to the Rev 9/8/8 in the thread where the Rev had to back away from his previous strong stance and admit that on election day he was indeed voting for McCain - surprisng not a soul here

Anything you don't like is a lie! It's all lies! LIES!

Amen brother. AMEN!
 
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You would know the truth if it bit you in the rear.

YOU Rev - Y...O....U .... you started a thread for heavens sake CALLING Obama the messiah. YOU. It seems to be your favorite pet term for him.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/38287-obama-messiah-sightings-thread.html

And you still have the third grade habit of having to tell the world that you win and your enemies lose - not having the faith to allow the arguments to convince anyone.



10-21-2008, and that thread was not about obama but the folks who put him up as the 2nd coming. Seriously,you had to get in your way back machine and go back about 3 years to fail? :lamo



And you're lying again, I never called him the messsiah, I started a thread about true believers viewing him as a messiah....

Face it, you lied about me, and now your trying to save face. and now your lying to cover up your other lies.


Man, I wish I had a clever "enemy" this was way too easy. :lamo:
 
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10-21-2008, and that thread was not about obama but the folks who put him up as the 2nd coming. Seriously,you had to get in your way back machine and go back about 3 years to fail? :lamo



And you're lying again, I never called him the messsiah, I started a thread about true believers viewing him as a messiah....

Face it, you lied about me, and now your trying to save face. and now your lying to cover up your other lies.


Man, I wish I had a clever "enemy" this was way too easy. :lamo:

Of all the downright disingenuous and ridiculous posts you have ever made, this one takes the award for the biggest absurdity that has ever come out of your brain. Do you really believe that you can be the number one cheerleader for mocking Obama as Messiah here and pretend that it did not happen?

You are really too much.
 
Of all the downright disingenuous and ridiculous posts you have ever made, this one takes the award for the biggest absurdity that has ever come out of your brain. Do you really believe that you can be the number one cheerleader for mocking Obama as Messiah here and pretend that it did not happen?

You are really too much.




If I was "#1 cheerleader mocking Obama" surely, you wouldn't have to go back to 2008. :prof


Face it, you want to act classless calling christie fat, and when I point it out, you come back that I started a thread 3 years ago about "obama messiah" sightings...... Not really your finest hour.....
 
If I was "#1 cheerleader mocking Obama" surely, you wouldn't have to go back to 2008. :prof


Face it, you want to act classless calling christie fat, and when I point it out, you come back that I started a thread 3 years ago about "obama messiah" sightings...... Not really your finest hour.....

I simply did a search. I put in Obama... Messiah and you... and the first thing that came up was the very thread that you started with tose words in the title inviting the world to mock Obama as the Messiah. And you rang the bell and the flock came and did their duty.

Christie IS FAT for christs sake Rev. CHRISTIE IS FAT. You got that. Obama is not Jesus or the Messiah. I give you a simple observable fact that Christie himself has admitted. You give the board poisonous barbed crap disguised as what passes on the right wing as 'humor' and you say its not my finest hour? Gimme a break and take your hypocrisy elsewhere cause it is not going over here.
 
Can someone let me know if Haymarket finds his contract language that says, "Employees can lie and take off sick whenever they feel like it." Until then, good night.

i kinda would have thought that matters such as "fraud" would have been implicit. probably also not in the contract is "if we catch you raping students, you will at the very least be placed on suspension while we beg the Union Powers That Be for permission to release a statement saying we disapprove of your conduct"..... but i'm betting that engaging in such an act would still bring reprecussions, ricky ticky.
 
i kinda would have thought that matters such as "fraud" would have been implicit. probably also not in the contract is "if we catch you raping students, you will at the very least be placed on suspension while we beg the Union Powers That Be for permission to release a statement saying we disapprove of your conduct"..... but i'm betting that engaging in such an act would still bring reprecussions, ricky ticky.

Every union contract has language about use of ones time away from the job. Before anyone passes judgment in this case it would be incumbent upon them to read just what than language is. Then it is important to look at the actual past practice of the enforcement adn to determine how it has been routinely enforced in the past. That is a process which CANNOT be done here.
 
I simply did a search. I put in Obama... Messiah and you... and the first thing that came up was the very thread that you started with tose words in the title inviting the world to mock Obama as the Messiah. And you rang the bell and the flock came and did their duty.


You really don't get it do you? I didnt call obama a dumb negro (see that would be the same as your idiotic christie is fat arguments) i took the days common buzz and had fun with it. There were obama jesus candles and other silly stuff. I was making fun of true believers. Not obama....

And the fact that that was the first thing that popped up shiws how bad you as usual fail. The search feature returns in chronological order.


The honorable thing to do would be to apologize for your lie. But we both know you wont.


Christie IS FAT for christs sake Rev. CHRISTIE IS FAT. You got that. Obama is not Jesus or the Messiah. I give you a simple observable fact that Christie himself has admitted. You give the board poisonous barbed crap disguised as what passes on the right wing as 'humor' and you say its not my finest hour? Gimme a break and take your hypocrisy elsewhere cause it is not going over here.


What does christies weight have to do with collective bargaining?

The messaiah thread was directly about folks treating obama as a god... It was a rather funny thread and the messiah thin was the topic and relevant.


And again. As you choose not to "get" the messiah remarks were about his followers that went to extremes... I didnt jump into a thread on lybia and call him a "dumb negro"'the equivelant of what you are doing here at christie.


Try showing some class for once. Stop with the mouth foaming idiotic "christie is fat" nonsense and apologize for lying about me. The maybe you can start to be taken seriously. :pimpdaddy:
 
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I didnt call obama a dumb negro (see that would be the same as your idiotic christie is fat arguments) i took the days common buzz and had fun with it.

What you did not do is irrelevant.

What you did do is start a thread to encourage others to mock Barack Obama as the Messiah. That is your right.

When I call Christie Jabba the Guv, I am mocking him just as you mocked Obama. That is my right.

Don't pretend to get on your high horse and lecture me about what is appropriate when you yourself engage in the same sort of mocking banter. Don't be a hypocrite and pretend that your own hands are clean. This Messiah stuff is no different and that is plain to see.

Of course, you have two very different standards that you employ - one for you and your fellow True Believers who all bow before the same altar and worship the same gods and far different standard which you apply to those who you see as the enemy. Thank you for yet again illustrating your own hypocrisy.
 
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So instead of showing some class and apologizing for your lies about me you instead want to call me names.


No an equivelant would be me refering to Obama as a "dumbo eared negro" in a thread about his lybia policy.... That messiah thread was about people like you who see no wrong in what your side does.


As for you true believer idiocy.... You sound like a cult. Foolish and anti-intellectual. I guess when you are making a fool of yourself, doubling down is your first choice of action.


You can stop embarrassing yourself at anytime. :lamo
 
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Every union contract has language about use of ones time away from the job.

on leave perhaps - i wouldn't know how these teachers have their summers, winter break, fall break, spring break, teaher work days, etc set up. however, claiming to be sick when one is not (and turning in false doctor statements to that effect) remains fraud.
 
on leave perhaps - i wouldn't know how these teachers have their summers, winter break, fall break, spring break, teaher work days, etc set up. however, claiming to be sick when one is not (and turning in false doctor statements to that effect) remains fraud.

You have a right to your opinion based on the limited information before you. However, unless you can present the actual contract language and unless you can present how such matters are routinely handled by administration no person here is in any position of authority to make that judgment and have it be accurate. Its all meaningless speculation.
 
Yeah!!!!! Get big government out of our lives. Right. Of course now Jabba the Guv is going to want to see your stool sample if you claim to have been ill. Jabba the Guv wants to be our mommy. Cute.

You want to bet that calling in sick, when you're not, is against the union rules?
 
You want to bet that calling in sick, when you're not, is against the union rules?

I wouldn't bet one way or the other. It's clearly wrong to call in sick when you aren't but it's amazing what has been perpetrated under union contracts. Now, I would suspect if the contract says union members can just take off whenever they feel like it, then they wouldn't have bothered to call in sick.
 
You want to bet that calling in sick, when you're not, is against the union rules?

Union rules? I think you mean the contract rules. And I would be happy to read them if you link to the appropriate sections. I would also be happy to read a history of how such cases have been routinely handled as a matter of past practice.
 
So instead of showing some class and apologizing for your lies about me you instead want to call me names.


No an equivelant would be me refering to Obama as a "dumbo eared negro" in a thread about his lybia policy.... That messiah thread was about people like you who see no wrong in what your side does.


As for you true believer idiocy.... You sound like a cult. Foolish and anti-intellectual. I guess when you are making a fool of yourself, doubling down is your first choice of action.


You can stop embarrassing yourself at anytime. :lamo

You are so darn predictable.

Calling people liars just for pointing out your own ridiculous statements and not accepting the garbage explanations that you attempt to foist on the board to hide from your own over the top hyperbole.

And you WILL NOT stop this egotistical self serving silliness until a mod tells you to do so. That is a given.
 
Union rules? I think you mean the contract rules. And I would be happy to read them if you link to the appropriate sections. I would also be happy to read a history of how such cases have been routinely handled as a matter of past practice.

Well your expression of interest is gratifying, so much so that I'm surprise that you don't already know all the rules being such a big union supporter and all.
 
Public Unions are almost completely useless anyways. All they do is serve to voice opinions....public workers can't strike and the Union has no say in discipline or firings.
 
You are so darn predictable.

Calling people liars just for pointing out your own ridiculous statements and not accepting the garbage explanations that you attempt to foist on the board to hide from your own over the top hyperbole.

And you WILL NOT stop this egotistical self serving silliness until a mod tells you to do so. That is a given.



You lied about me, made a claim, then when I challenged you to back it up, the best you could muster was something from 2008, 3 years ago, and was not the same as your classless behavior.


you want to act like a bigot towards christie that's your perrogative, however it would be foolish to think anyone would take your positions seriously given your lack of ability to maintain self control and your trouble with honesty and integrity. :shrug:
 
:fueltofir Whatever is causing Republicans to piss away their political capital on quixotic assaults against public employees, I'm just happy to be here watching.

People detest lazy leeches like these folks. Christie is earning HUGE points with the people that actually get up and go put in an honest day's work.

People are fired up that these unions are finally being taken to task.
 
People detest lazy leeches like these folks. Christie is earning HUGE points with the people that actually get up and go put in an honest day's work.

People are fired up that these unions are finally being taken to task.




Christie is doing great,when you see the idiots and thier big mouths attacking him for things personally instead of his policies, you know they think he's a threat to them and act the fool and all childish over irrellevant personal charactaristics.

Christie would make a great president.
 
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