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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    A "vacation" is taken with prior approval so the employer can adjust his schedule. Same for so-called "personal days" and other times off not related to illness. A "sick day" is an emergency and expected to be sporadic. The employer doesn't usually have to worry about half his shop not coming in because of illness and the present employees can usually cover for the occasional absentee.

    When an entire union decides to run off and use a sick day because they can't get permission for everyone to take off on the same day, they're unconsionably putting the employer's mission at risk. If a school is closed because 75% of the damn unionized teachers are pretending to be sick, all those parents have to call in to THEIR work and explain that they can't come in because their kid's teacher is a mobster. The economic circle of union damage is widened.

    No absentee employees who can't show a valid doctor's note should probably be fired or disciplined. Absentee employees proven to be a union rally who called in sick should certainly be fired.

    MOST IMPORTANTLY, any "doctor" who issued "sick notes" to healthy union members at a rally should lose their state-issued license to practice medicine and should face criminal fraud charges.

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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    I am throwing the BS flag, ths is the silliest post I've read in some time.
    You should pick up your flag and attempt to deal with the issues. It makes you look so much more informed.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Here is the fact, the Governor did what he did, if you want to prove it to be wrong, go ahead and try, I don't have to show anything, the deed is done. Common sense tells me that will all the s**t going on with the unions, that this was well looked into before the action was taken. If not … then shame on him.

    Now on the other hand, if these teachers could have taken a personal day or vacation day to avoid being fired, and were too damn stupid to do so, then I have to wonder what they are doing in the teaching profession to begin with.
    Which is your way of saying that you have no contractual language of any kind to use to prove anything. You claim that these people should be disciplined but you can show no real language to demonstrate that they did anything illegal or in violation of their contract.

    Typical.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Which is your way of saying that you have no contractual language of any kind to use to prove anything. You claim that these people should be disciplined but you can show no real language to demonstrate that they did anything illegal or in violation of their contract.

    Typical.
    What is typical is your blind/deaf/dumb approach to any conduct that interferes with a union buddy. O.M.G. "There are none so blind as those who will not see." Your incredibility is rapidly becoming legendary.

    And, as always, your sage answer is "prove it." When I want to disprove something, I do so....with links. So show us the language in any teachers' contract that says they can falsely use sick days to avoid taking personal ones. I'll wait.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What is typical is your blind/deaf/dumb approach to any conduct that interferes with a union buddy. O.M.G. "There are none so blind as those who will not see." Your incredibility is rapidly becoming legendary.

    And, as always, your sage answer is "prove it." When I want to disprove something, I do so....with links. So show us the language in any teachers' contract that says they can falsely use sick days to avoid taking personal ones. I'll wait.
    Maggie - I am sorry you see asking for the facts as being so objectionable.

    I learned long ago that a person is innocent until proven guilty. If you feel anyone has done anything wrong the burden is upon the accuser to show that it is so. Nobody has to prove they DID NOT DO IT.

    This is America. That is the way it works here. And I like it that way.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Maggie - I am sorry you see asking for the facts as being so objectionable.

    I learned long ago that a person is innocent until proven guilty. If you feel anyone has done anything wrong the burden is upon the accuser to show that it is so. Nobody has to prove they DID NOT DO IT.

    This is America. That is the way it works here. And I like it that way.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    I am throwing the BS flag, ths is the silliest post I've read in some time.
    I thought about nominating it for the Stupidest Post of the Month down below.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You should pick up your flag and attempt to deal with the issues. It makes you look so much more informed.
    It makes him look more informed than this comment made you.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yeah!!!!! Get big government out of our lives. Right. Of course now Jabba the Guv is going to want to see your stool sample if you claim to have been ill. Jabba the Guv wants to be our mommy. Cute.
    No sympathy for the people who were depending on the union workers to do their jobs?
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    In other words, ya' got nothin'.
    Did you miss the point here? Its not ME who needs to have anything other than -"you made the accusation - you back it up with the facts". In America, that is the way it works. Nobody accused of anything needs to prove their innocence. Everyone is presumed innocent and it is up to the side making the accusation to buuild their case.

    Which you have not done on this point.

    Of course, this right wing rush to judgement is not at all surprising.
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