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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    i kinda would have thought that matters such as "fraud" would have been implicit. probably also not in the contract is "if we catch you raping students, you will at the very least be placed on suspension while we beg the Union Powers That Be for permission to release a statement saying we disapprove of your conduct"..... but i'm betting that engaging in such an act would still bring reprecussions, ricky ticky.
    Every union contract has language about use of ones time away from the job. Before anyone passes judgment in this case it would be incumbent upon them to read just what than language is. Then it is important to look at the actual past practice of the enforcement adn to determine how it has been routinely enforced in the past. That is a process which CANNOT be done here.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I simply did a search. I put in Obama... Messiah and you... and the first thing that came up was the very thread that you started with tose words in the title inviting the world to mock Obama as the Messiah. And you rang the bell and the flock came and did their duty.

    You really don't get it do you? I didnt call obama a dumb negro (see that would be the same as your idiotic christie is fat arguments) i took the days common buzz and had fun with it. There were obama jesus candles and other silly stuff. I was making fun of true believers. Not obama....

    And the fact that that was the first thing that popped up shiws how bad you as usual fail. The search feature returns in chronological order.


    The honorable thing to do would be to apologize for your lie. But we both know you wont.



    Christie IS FAT for christs sake Rev. CHRISTIE IS FAT. You got that. Obama is not Jesus or the Messiah. I give you a simple observable fact that Christie himself has admitted. You give the board poisonous barbed crap disguised as what passes on the right wing as 'humor' and you say its not my finest hour? Gimme a break and take your hypocrisy elsewhere cause it is not going over here.

    What does christies weight have to do with collective bargaining?

    The messaiah thread was directly about folks treating obama as a god... It was a rather funny thread and the messiah thin was the topic and relevant.


    And again. As you choose not to "get" the messiah remarks were about his followers that went to extremes... I didnt jump into a thread on lybia and call him a "dumb negro"'the equivelant of what you are doing here at christie.


    Try showing some class for once. Stop with the mouth foaming idiotic "christie is fat" nonsense and apologize for lying about me. The maybe you can start to be taken seriously.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

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    I didnt call obama a dumb negro (see that would be the same as your idiotic christie is fat arguments) i took the days common buzz and had fun with it.
    What you did not do is irrelevant.

    What you did do is start a thread to encourage others to mock Barack Obama as the Messiah. That is your right.

    When I call Christie Jabba the Guv, I am mocking him just as you mocked Obama. That is my right.

    Don't pretend to get on your high horse and lecture me about what is appropriate when you yourself engage in the same sort of mocking banter. Don't be a hypocrite and pretend that your own hands are clean. This Messiah stuff is no different and that is plain to see.

    Of course, you have two very different standards that you employ - one for you and your fellow True Believers who all bow before the same altar and worship the same gods and far different standard which you apply to those who you see as the enemy. Thank you for yet again illustrating your own hypocrisy.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    So instead of showing some class and apologizing for your lies about me you instead want to call me names.


    No an equivelant would be me refering to Obama as a "dumbo eared negro" in a thread about his lybia policy.... That messiah thread was about people like you who see no wrong in what your side does.


    As for you true believer idiocy.... You sound like a cult. Foolish and anti-intellectual. I guess when you are making a fool of yourself, doubling down is your first choice of action.


    You can stop embarrassing yourself at anytime.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Every union contract has language about use of ones time away from the job.
    on leave perhaps - i wouldn't know how these teachers have their summers, winter break, fall break, spring break, teaher work days, etc set up. however, claiming to be sick when one is not (and turning in false doctor statements to that effect) remains fraud.

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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    on leave perhaps - i wouldn't know how these teachers have their summers, winter break, fall break, spring break, teaher work days, etc set up. however, claiming to be sick when one is not (and turning in false doctor statements to that effect) remains fraud.
    You have a right to your opinion based on the limited information before you. However, unless you can present the actual contract language and unless you can present how such matters are routinely handled by administration no person here is in any position of authority to make that judgment and have it be accurate. Its all meaningless speculation.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yeah!!!!! Get big government out of our lives. Right. Of course now Jabba the Guv is going to want to see your stool sample if you claim to have been ill. Jabba the Guv wants to be our mommy. Cute.
    You want to bet that calling in sick, when you're not, is against the union rules?
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You want to bet that calling in sick, when you're not, is against the union rules?
    I wouldn't bet one way or the other. It's clearly wrong to call in sick when you aren't but it's amazing what has been perpetrated under union contracts. Now, I would suspect if the contract says union members can just take off whenever they feel like it, then they wouldn't have bothered to call in sick.

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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You want to bet that calling in sick, when you're not, is against the union rules?
    Union rules? I think you mean the contract rules. And I would be happy to read them if you link to the appropriate sections. I would also be happy to read a history of how such cases have been routinely handled as a matter of past practice.
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    Re: Gov Christie suspends union members for fake calling out sick

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So instead of showing some class and apologizing for your lies about me you instead want to call me names.


    No an equivelant would be me refering to Obama as a "dumbo eared negro" in a thread about his lybia policy.... That messiah thread was about people like you who see no wrong in what your side does.


    As for you true believer idiocy.... You sound like a cult. Foolish and anti-intellectual. I guess when you are making a fool of yourself, doubling down is your first choice of action.


    You can stop embarrassing yourself at anytime.
    You are so darn predictable.

    Calling people liars just for pointing out your own ridiculous statements and not accepting the garbage explanations that you attempt to foist on the board to hide from your own over the top hyperbole.

    And you WILL NOT stop this egotistical self serving silliness until a mod tells you to do so. That is a given.
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