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Wisconsin Dem assemblyman to GOP colleague: “You are f***ing dead”

pbrauer said:
Was the law involved in any way?
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You're fishing. What's the end of the argument you're making? That he didn't utter a death threat and it's not punisheable by law?
 
Republicans tout themselves as the party of values and Democrats as a party of deviants and then wonder why there is a double standard. :roll:
 
The only difference in a republican saying it and a democrat saying it is the republican only means your dead in the next election and the democrat means your dead for real.

That is what I keep hearing anyway.

Either side is a stupid idiot for saying such words.
 
Hatuey said:
You're fishing. What's the end of the argument you're making? That he didn't utter a death threat and it's not punisheable by law?
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You said he should go to jail. I don't think anyone should put in jail without going through the criminal justice system. I don't accept what has been said as to what he said unless they swear to tell the truth in a court of law. Then and only then should punishment be meted out That's the American way...
 
Hatuey said:
Why would one have to be made in order to send somebody who clearly made a death threat against somebody else? This guy was clearly way over the line and uttered threats. You don't need a criminal complaint in order to prosecute him.
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I don't think it was threats, and I can actually relate to this first hand. I held my last job for 18 years. In the last year, the company was bought out, and it took the new owner less than a year to run it into the ground. As I went out the door, after a huge fight with him, I told him that he was f---ing dead. Of course, I meant his future. He took it that way too.

I am surprised that so many people are actually reading into this something that just isn't there, as this was not a death threat. It was an observation that this agenda, and her political future, were dead. It's very simple.

As for the hookers, he should be strung up for that. He's a creep, and I believe that, if people want to discredit him, this is more than enough. He more than deserves to be defeated in the next election.
 
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danarhea said:
I don't think it was threats, and I can actually relate to this first hand. I held my last job for 18 years. In the last year, the company was bought out, and it took the new owner less than a year to run it into the ground. As I went out the door, after a huge fight with him, I told him that he was f---ing dead. Of course, I meant his future. He took it that way too.

I am surprised that so many people are actually reading into this something that just isn't there, as this was not a death threat. It was an observation that this agenda, and her political future, were dead. It's very simple.

As for the hookers, he should be strung up for that. He's a creep, and I believe that, if people want to discredit him, this is more than enough. He more than deserves to be defeated in the next election.
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The problem with a statement like "You're ****ing dead" is that it can be interpreted a few different ways, all of which should be taken seriously. Especially given the recent shooting of a Congresswoman, and the uproar this caused about violent rhetoric being used.
 
pbrauer said:
You said he should go to jail.
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Yes. For uttering death threats.

I don't think anyone should put in jail without going through the criminal justice system. I don't accept what has been said as to what he said unless they swear to tell the truth in a court of law. Then and only then should punishment be meted out That's the American way...
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He ALREADY ADMITTED IT. You don't have to accept it. Facts are facts. He uttered a death threat now he should suffer the consequences.
 
Hatuey said:
He should be sent to jail for making death threats to an elected official.
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I disagree that any criminal action should be taken, but he should recieve a serious public repremand from his fellow party members...which hasn't happened, yet.
 
apdst said:
I disagree that any criminal action should be taken, but he should recieve a serious public repremand from his fellow party members...which hasn't happened, yet.
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Hmm... if a regular joe did this, he'd not get off so light. Why is it that the laws do not apply equally to elected members of society, but they do on non-elected members? I just don't get it.
 
what time is the hanging?
 
The best resolution for this is for the two individuals involved to work it out among themselves to the point where they are both satisfied with the result. Watching an interview with the lady who was threatened on fox at the dentist office this morning, it seems that has more or less been done and she does not feel physically threatened in any way.

As far as I am concerned, if the lady who was threatened is happy, than the case is closed.
 
pbrauer said:
Did you the mention hooker stuff in the OP??? So what do you say about Sen. Vitter of Louisiana, who is a family values Republican?
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Let me get this straight. You have pretty much squat to say about a Dem who tells a republican she is ****ing dead. He was caught with hookers and your concern is that a conservative is not jumping all over Vitters when he's not the OT. Admit it, if they don't have an (R) they don't concern you, but if the do have an (R) they are worthy of your time to smear them.

Here's an example of a thread you started.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ns-after-shirtless-photo-posted-internet.html
Pbrauer @
Once again the party of 'family values' proves they are no better than anyone else
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Congressman Chris Lee Resigns After Shirtless Photo Posted on Internet - ABC News

Rep. Chris Lee, R-N.Y., resigned from Congress
after a report emerged that he had sent flirtatious e-
mails, including one with a bare-chested photo of
himself, to a woman he met on Craigslist.
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pbrauer said:
Again, the hooker wasn't mentioned in the OP, only what he said.:roll:
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Why should it be mentioned? No one ever makes a big deal when Dems do things like that. Death threats is a new low. I'd be saying the same if it was a Republican.
 
apdst said:
And, you're more worried about that, than this dickweed making a death threat against a colleague? :rofl
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He can't find an example of a Republican doing the same thing. That's what he's worried about. There's plenty of adultery and hooker stories from both sides.
 
danarhea said:
I don't think it was threats, and I can actually relate to this first hand. I held my last job for 18 years. In the last year, the company was bought out, and it took the new owner less than a year to run it into the ground. As I went out the door, after a huge fight with him, I told him that he was f---ing dead. Of course, I meant his future. He took it that way too.

I am surprised that so many people are actually reading into this something that just isn't there, as this was not a death threat. It was an observation that this agenda, and her political future, were dead. It's very simple.

As for the hookers, he should be strung up for that. He's a creep, and I believe that, if people want to discredit him, this is more than enough. He more than deserves to be defeated in the next election.
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The thing is after Tuscon there was all the outcry about civility. Seems the Dems have only gotten worse. Also, I thought they were putting laws together to be even stricter when it came to threats toward our elected officials. Anyway, this seems like a pretty serious charge. Maybe the courts don't need brought into it, but I think there should be some kind of action taken.
 
apdst said:
I disagree that any criminal action should be taken, but he should recieve a serious public repremand from his fellow party members...which hasn't happened, yet.
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Interesting. A liberal calling for a Liberal's head on a plate, and a Conservative defending the Liberal.

A very warm place just got very cold. :mrgreen:
 
danarhea said:
Interesting. A liberal calling for a Liberal's head on a plate, and a Conservative defending the Liberal.

A very warm place just got very cold. :mrgreen:
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Was it you that called me a partisan hack not long ago? ;)
 
The guy was seriously out of line. He only issued an apology three days later, after it ended up in the press. I would have liked the leader of Wisc's state democratic party to have commented on it as well, and stressed that his outburst did not have the approval of the party.
 
megaprogman said:
The best resolution for this is for the two individuals involved to work it out among themselves to the point where they are both satisfied with the result. Watching an interview with the lady who was threatened on fox at the dentist office this morning, it seems that has more or less been done and she does not feel physically threatened in any way.

As far as I am concerned, if the lady who was threatened is happy, than the case is closed.
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I think it's time for another Beer Summit at the White House.

:party:cheers:
 
Whovian said:
Not exactly the same level of disdain you showed in threads where Republicans said violent things. Typical PB.
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It's typical of a Republican when a Republican does the same sh*t... what planet are you from... Do you expect him to burn his voter card? Let's hear you condemn a Repub with more enthusiasm, please.
 
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