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    CIA Spying on Social Media, Blogs, Forums

    In case you thought you were anonymous on these forums, or that your thoughts were not being monitored by the government, you are wrong.


    "In-Q-Tel, the investment arm of the CIA and the wider intelligence community, is putting cash into Visible Technologies, a software firm that specializes in monitoring social media."

    "Visible crawls over half a million web 2.0 sites a day, scraping more than a million posts and conversations taking place on blogs, online forums, Flickr, YouTube, Twitter and Amazon. (It doesn't touch closed social networks, like Facebook, at the moment.) Customers get customized, real-time feeds of what's being said on these sites, based on a series of keywords."

    CIA branch invests in tech firm that monitors blogs, Twitter, social media Boing Boing

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    Re: CIA Spying on Social Media, Blogs, Forums

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    In case you thought you were anonymous on these forums, or that your thoughts were not being monitored by the government, you are wrong.


    "In-Q-Tel, the investment arm of the CIA and the wider intelligence community, is putting cash into Visible Technologies, a software firm that specializes in monitoring social media."

    "Visible crawls over half a million web 2.0 sites a day, scraping more than a million posts and conversations taking place on blogs, online forums, Flickr, YouTube, Twitter and Amazon. (It doesn't touch closed social networks, like Facebook, at the moment.) Customers get customized, real-time feeds of what's being said on these sites, based on a series of keywords."

    CIA branch invests in tech firm that monitors blogs, Twitter, social media Boing Boing
    it's not just the forums!!! i never thought otherwise.

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    Bombs, Terrorists, Dirty Bomb, Militia, Airplane Bomb. Bring it on CIA and NSA. I'm here. What are you going to do about it!
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    Thoughtcrime equals double plus ungood

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    Re: CIA Spying on Social Media, Blogs, Forums

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    In case you thought you were anonymous on these forums, or that your thoughts were not being monitored by the government, you are wrong.


    "In-Q-Tel, the investment arm of the CIA and the wider intelligence community, is putting cash into Visible Technologies, a software firm that specializes in monitoring social media."

    "Visible crawls over half a million web 2.0 sites a day, scraping more than a million posts and conversations taking place on blogs, online forums, Flickr, YouTube, Twitter and Amazon. (It doesn't touch closed social networks, like Facebook, at the moment.) Customers get customized, real-time feeds of what's being said on these sites, based on a series of keywords."

    CIA branch invests in tech firm that monitors blogs, Twitter, social media Boing Boing
    1. this is called "OSINT", or Open Source INTelligence. As opposed, for example, to SIGINT (SIGnals INTelligence), HUMINT (HUMan INTelligence) and so on. given that it's in the basic (unclassified) manuals for every single intelligence service, DOD or civilian, this is hardly Some New Horrid Revelation.

    2. the internet is in permanent ink, tatooed in adamite. yes. don't write here what you would never in a million years want anyone to find.

    3. this is also an excellent collection method; you have to find a way of filtering out the massive amount of chaff in order to get to the wheat when you are attempting to intercept enemy communications, which very often take place in just these kinds of forum.

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    Re: CIA Spying on Social Media, Blogs, Forums

    How effectively do they plan to use the data? Just to be able to identify possible threats like Joe the gung ho who takes his gun to a rally and make sure hes not a demented psycho? Or is it to be able to query a nice background on just about anyone they want? Can they break into my facebook? Jimminy Jeeze. Something I always suspected.

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    Re: CIA Spying on Social Media, Blogs, Forums

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    How effectively do they plan to use the data? Just to be able to identify possible threats like Joe the gung ho who takes his gun to a rally and make sure hes not a demented psycho? Or is it to be able to query a nice background on just about anyone they want? Can they break into my facebook? Jimminy Jeeze. Something I always suspected.
    chatrooms and social networks such as facebook have famously become the organizational tool utilized by protesters across the world; from Tunisia to Egypt to Iran to China; and many of those protesters (also famously) have belonged to Islamist networks. Islamist networks targetting the West also use these sites to pass information and organize. sometimes they are open, sometimes not (there is a level of dependence on the fact that we are hampered in our translation capability), and sometimes they use simple code-words, key phrases, one-time-pads, etc.

    the CIA (the entire intel community) doesn't even have the personnel to fully process the reports it is already generating. the likelihood that they would break into your facebook page is probably roughly less than you being struck by lightning as you swim ashore from your shark attack. unless you happen to randomly sign onto a jihadist website and post some random sounding nonsense that happens to contain key phrases tied to past terrorist activity. then the filter might pop up with your name/ip address, and they might take a look to see who you are and what you are up to.

    say, for example, we had an IP in afghanistan tied to ayman zawahiri (2nd in command of Al-Qaeda, their Ops guy); and we knew that in the past he had used the phrase "may you shine like the flowers of the field" as the order to launch an attack in western europe. now let us say that you begin to join the same networks as this particular IP, and one day you send another poster the simple message "may you shine like the flowers of the field". the filter has been set to pick up on that phrase, and now (hopefully) someone is very interested in confirming who you are and exactly what you mean by that.
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    Re: CIA Spying on Social Media, Blogs, Forums

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the CIA (the entire intel community)
    Wrong.

    doesn't even have the personnel to fully process the reports it is already generating.
    Likely

    the likelihood that they would break into your facebook page is probably roughly less than you being struck by lightning as you swim ashore from your shark attack. unless you happen to randomly sign onto a jihadist website and post some random sounding nonsense that happens to contain key phrases tied to past terrorist activity. then they might take a look to see who you are and what you are up to.
    I'm more worried about them crawling and recording the entire interweb and being able to query my person up at their discretion. Or that of anyone I know or anyone they wish. Psuedo-legally.

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    Re: CIA Spying on Social Media, Blogs, Forums

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Wrong.
    you misunderstand, i was saying "the cia" and then in parenthesis "the entire intel community", in such a way as to almost put a heck in there.

    as in :

    the cia - heck - the entire intel community doesn't have the resources.....

    etc.

    Likely
    not "likely". 'reality'.

    I'm more worried about them crawling and recording the entire interweb and being able to query my person up at their discretion. Or that of anyone I know or anyone they wish. Psuedo-legally.
    then you are wasting your time. you are better off to panic at the thought of Marines training with rifles, because the possibility exists that one of them will sneak one off base and shoot up his local WalMart. at least the Marine would have the time to do so.

    the problem with information in the intel world now is chiefly one of data filtering and management. how to take 50,000 reports, sift through them, pick out what's important, analyze it, and then turn it into a product in time for it to be actionable?

    Real World looks nothing whatsoever like the Bourne series, or "24".
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    Re: CIA Spying on Social Media, Blogs, Forums

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Real World looks nothing whatsoever like the Bourne series, or "24".
    You don't have to condescend, I get it.

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