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    Re: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Emplo

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The GOP's war on public employees is nothing more than a veiled attempt to take the focus off of their corporate bedbuddies and the billions of dollars of corporate welfare that they love to hand out.
    this one i think will ultimately backfire.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Emplo

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Pulitzer Prize winning tax reporter, David Cay Johnston, has written a brilliant piece for tax.com exposing the truth about who really pays for the pension and benefits for public employees in Wisconsin.

    Gov. Scott Walker says he wants state workers covered by collective bargaining agreements to “contribute more” to their pension and health insurance plans. Accepting Gov. Walker’ s assertions as fact, and failing to check, creates the impression that somehow the workers are getting something extra, a gift from taxpayers. They are not. Out of every dollar that funds Wisconsin’ s pension and health insurance plans for state workers, 100 cents comes from the state workers.

    Via tax.com

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    Excellent point! Sadly, very few have take the time to learn about the situation in Wisconsin. Thank you for bringing this up!
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    Re: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Emplo

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The GOP's war on public employees is nothing more than a veiled attempt to take the focus off of their corporate bedbuddies and the billions of dollars of corporate welfare that they love to hand out.
    You don't see corporations crying on the news when they receive increased coroprate taxes do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    and the teachers have agreed to this. so what's the governor's problem?
    Indeed they have, to what I've read the teacher seem to agree to everything proposed except Governor Walker's stand on collective bargaining. Teachers will accept the 12% increase, but would just end up bargaining for the difference to make it up, which is probably why they don't like the new proposed ban on collective bargaining.
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    Re: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Emplo

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The GOP's war on public employees is nothing more than a veiled attempt to take the focus off of their corporate bedbuddies and the billions of dollars of corporate welfare that they love to hand out.
    Who signed off on the car company bailouts?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Emplo

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who signed off on the car company bailouts?
    right, who saved thousands of jobs?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Emplo

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    You don't see corporations crying on the news when they receive increased coroprate taxes do you?


    Indeed they have, to what I've read the teacher seem to agree to everything proposed except Governor Walker's stand on collective bargaining. Teachers will accept the 12% increase, but would just end up bargaining for the difference to make it up, which is probably why they don't like the new proposed ban on collective bargaining.
    nope. they've agreed to everything for this year. walker just wants to bust the union, and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Emplo

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    right, who saved thousands of jobs?
    How do you gauge, "jobs saved", again?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Emplo

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    nope. they've agreed to everything for this year. walker just wants to bust the union, and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.
    There shouldn't be any public employee unions to launder money for the Democrat party. This is the biggest rip-off of tax payers in history.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Emplo

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    nope. they've agreed to everything for this year. walker just wants to bust the union, and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.
    Then same can be said for you liberals with corporations. When it comes time to walk the walk unions can't step up to the plate, simple as that.
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    Re: The Wisconsin Lie Exposed – Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Emplo

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    Then same can be said for you liberals with corporations. When it comes time to walk the walk unions can't step up to the plate, simple as that.
    i'm sorry, could you please explain what that means?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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