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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
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    .....if you want People as close to $0.00 as possible.......vote Liberal

    ....if you want People as far away from $0.00 as possible.....vote Conservative
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    Every single freaking Liberal could vote Conservative and it wouldn't change their lack of wealth at all.

    People who are wealthy tend to vote in favor of measures that will CONTINUE to preserve their wealth.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    lots of libs whine about this fact but what are the rational solutions? punish the rich?
    here is the problem
    if the rich don't get richer the economy has collapsed

    if I make 100K a year and only spend (taxes, food, shelter etc) 75 K a year that means I have 25 left over. I can blow it on trinkets, booze etc or invest it. and if I invest 25k every year the only way I don't get richer is if that investment fails to make money

    so in the course of 40 years of working, I will have invested a million dollars and when I retire I have more than a million dollars

    while if someone else who has say 50K of income and spends almost every cent-in 40 years they won't have anywhere near what I have

    so libs-tell me what your solution is

    and what happens if there are two people with the same income and expenses-one guy saves and invests, the other spends every cent he has-how do you formulate a tax policy to punish the first guy because he invests?



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Every single freaking Liberal could vote Conservative and it wouldn't change their lack of wealth at all.

    People who are wealthy tend to vote in favor of measures that will CONTINUE to preserve their wealth.
    people who are wealthy generally have made smart choices and have worked hard



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    We just ended our chapter of this 'wealth/poor gap' in my Social Problems class - Professor Petray said "The rich keep getting more wealthier and the poor keep getting more children"
    breeding irresponsibly is a major reason for people being poor.



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Every single freaking Liberal could vote Conservative and it wouldn't change their lack of wealth at all.
    "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work"

    ........the opportunity to change that lack of wealth is what they would be voting for.

    People who are wealthy vote in favor of measures that will CONTINUE to preserve their wealth.
    ....as would anyone with a penny in their pocket.......
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    breeding irresponsibly is a major reason for people being poor.
    Meaning not using birth control properly?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    people who are wealthy generally have made smart choices and have worked hard
    or their ancestors did.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    people who are wealthy generally have made smart choices and have worked hard


    The only person in my husband's family who EVER lifted a finger to do hard work in their entire wealth-building history was Great Grandfather Hauna who bought land in California and had a winery for quite some time - and during that time he also started a plumbing business and patented a few items here and there.

    The family has lived for 3 generations off of only one mans innovation, initiative and hardwork. They're scummy lowlife rednecks injecting and snorting his inheritence away. They have his wealth - but they don't have his work ethics or values.
    Do you think this is an unsual story? Nope, it's not.

    They'd be homeless drug addicted bums if the property of his near Fremont, Ca wasn't worth a fortune when they sold it 10 years ago or so.

    You only THINK that all those who are well off somehow did something in their life to earn it - when really it's mostly just an accident of birth. There are very FEW wealthy individuals who actually built their fortunes FROM nothing and WITH hardwork and perserverance. Most haven't done a damn thing for it.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    or their ancestors did.
    We know that the wealth gap in this country is widening. We also know that social mobility in the United States is on the decline, which really makes it hard to believe that most wealthy Americans are of the "rags to riches" type. Most likely they inherited a certain degree of wealth, or at least were accorded better resources (better primary education, personal connections leading to job opportunities, etc.) This isn't to say that those who are wealthy didn't earn it or aren't hard workers, but it can't be denied that many who are wealthy had a step up from the rest. In the real world, wealth is derived from capital and assets, and these are handed down through generations. The wealthiest people are making money even when they're sleeping, the money makes itself.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post

    You only THINK that all those who are well off somehow did something in their life to earn it - when really it's mostly just an accident of birth. There are very FEW wealthy individuals who actually built their fortunes FROM nothing and WITH hardwork and perserverance. Most haven't done a damn thing for it.
    There are many who live off the hard work of relatives or distant relatives who are spoil bitches and bastards, of that there's no doubt. I draw the distinction between self made wealth and inherited wealth - but that's not to say that some who inherit are all lazy either. Some wealthy do raise their kids right and do not spoil the hell out of them. I don't know any personally but I do know of them, and the one family I know of - their kids didn't know their parents had millions until they were in their mid teens. They lived modestly and didn't show it off at all.... that's the way to go.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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