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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    never said that but since I get no additional governmental benefits that you don't get the claim that I should pay even more taxes is specious
    You don't get privilege for paying a larger sum of money in tax? Firstly I hate bitching about taxes from any side. I don't like discussing it in any way. But that you should get benefits for ostensibly paying more in money that is technically worth less to you as the cost of living and goods are the same for you as anyone else.. I don't see how you can complain.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    You don't get privilege for paying a larger sum of money in tax? Firstly I hate bitching about taxes from any side. I don't like discussing it in any way. But that you should get benefits for ostensibly paying more in money that is technically worth less to you as the cost of living and goods are the same for you as anyone else.. I don't see how you can complain.
    I don't get any additional benefits FROM THE GOVERNMENT

    that is where the tax the rich crowd fails

    they assume that some are richer merely because the GOVERNMENT has given them more

    its like claiming that the valedictorian in a public HS was Given more by the school than a slacker making C grades.

    I complain because I have to pay more and get no additional benefits



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't get any additional benefits FROM THE GOVERNMENT
    Oh, no I understood quite well. Do you need your binky? Maybe respond to the things I say instead of freaking out about how you don't get enough from the government? Maybe a nice bullet train? Public malls and subways made of marble? Well adjusted people of all classes you can get along with?



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't get any additional benefits FROM THE GOVERNMENT

    that is where the tax the rich crowd fails
    I see the month of March has not seen any clearing up of your Continual Costco Confusion.

    Still twisting your own thought processes to confuse the retailshopping experience with a citizens relationship to their government I see.

    ......its like claiming ......
    No. This is this. This isn't something else. This is this.

    I complain because I have to pay more and get no additional benefits
    Complain all you want. That will not change your tax obligation into a Costco credit card with a hefty credit balance.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Mayor Snorkum knows the real meaning of the expandin gap between the richest and the poorest.

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    Are you talking about another different person with the same name or are you talking about yourself like you are a completely different person?
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    A very small part of it does go down. It's true that a rising tide lifts all boats, it's just that some boats are being lifted at a much faster rate than others.
    and some sink
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Hey, who are you, mayor snorkum?
    You sound familiar.
    Does Mayor Snorkum's Eustace post here?

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    The Rich actually use the majority of government services and entitlements

    "Say what? Yeah i know it sounds counter intuitive.

    But the massive military is there to protect Americans wealth. The top 10% has 80% of that.. so 80% of military expenditures is to protect the wealthy. And we can see it directly when we sent the military to save the US captain caught by somali pirates. (think that costs a dime or two?)

    The nations highway system is enjoyed by all, but mostly by commercial traffic to get the wealthy products to places where they can sell to you.

    Sure the poor fly now and then, but for the most part the airports support those that have meetings and business adventures or vacations.

    the rich fly more.

    when californian fights forest fires to protect houses they are mainly protecting the houses of the wealthy, even when they go into poor neighborhoods, most of those people rent from the wealthy.

    Yes the rich send their kids to private school, but they get workers that are smarter than rocks, due to the public school system. This allows them to sell more product.

    the police protect people and wealth.. and as we mentioned the rich have 80% of the wealth. Keeping the criminals in prisons funded by the government, keeps them off the street and from robbing the rich.

    the rich and corps use most of the energy in this country, so a majority of the money spent on the energy structure is to benefit the wealthy.

    The rich use the court system to fight competition and to protect their investments. The poor use the court system to go to jail.

    No poor man has ever gotten an earmark.

    they even benefit from welfare. When you provide the destitute enough to eat, you ease desperation. Starving people will murder you for bread, especially if they have starving children.

    WE live in a society, you really cant escape that fact. The rich like to complain we are stealing money they earn and wasting it on the poor.
    Well i hope i have atleast shown they actually benefit from a lot of government spending.
    How about that stealing part?
    If you had a trillion dollars on a desert island.. would it be worth anything but for starting fires?
    Government create money and create and protect the market.
    The market set up decides how much to compensate you for work you do.
    But you didnt earn anything in a vaccuum.
    Dont believe me, go invent an ipod in the desert with no one elses help, make millions selling it to cacti and come back and tell me how wrong i was.
    No one lives in a vaccumm we live in a society.
    When the government increases taxes, it isnt stealing, it is simply keeping more of americans wealth that was CREATED BY GOVERNMENT for itself.

    They arent stealing from you by raising taxes, they are simply allowing you to take less home from the american market created by and protected by the american government.

    it is why tax cuts are tickle up, because the government is setting up the market rules to benefit the rich over the poor.. it has nothing to do with stealing.. the government created the game.

    However when you create massive deficits from tax cuts that IS stealing from the future.

    and Like i said if you dont believe me, create your own money, create your own market, set your own rules/.. start a society. And if you want you can not educate the people and see how happy you are with employees that cant read or write or count."

    Newsvine - The Rich actually use the majority of government services and entitlements.


    So let the spending cuts to these programs begin!
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Ever since Reagan drastically cut taxes for the wealthiest of Americans, the rich have been getting richer at an astronomical pace. Check out this interesting article that documents the growing disparity between the top1% of the population and the remaining 99%....
    the poor have been getting wealthier, and the wealthy have been getting wealthier faster. as could be predicted; the easier it becomes for someone to build wealth, the more those who are better at doing so will achieve.


    but remind me again - why should i care?

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Rich actually use the majority of government services and entitlements

    "Say what? Yeah i know it sounds counter intuitive.
    not really. the "wealthy" (although i think to make this work you have to add in a good chunk of the middle class) are by definition better at taking advantage of what is available.

    which is why yet another reason we shouldn't have government in the business of shifting money around.

    at the very least we need to start means-testing the entitlements.

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