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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    how did the G-A-O find a full HALF TRILLION DOLLARS of WASTE, most of it coming in the last 2 years, in its audit released tuesday?

    Gov't Watchdog IDs Billions In Federal Waste - Politics News Story - WSMV Nashville

    what self respecting class warrior is gonna approve more public funds for these profligates to misplace?

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    mainstream michael moore on the monied

    "They're sitting on the money, they're using it for their own -- they're putting it someplace else with no interest in helping you with your life, with that money. We've allowed them to take that. That's not theirs, that's a national resource, that's ours.
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    LOL!

    catchya at the precincts, comrades

    bring the bolsheviks
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Michael Moore is a nut-job. I think we can all agree on that.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! Like I'm going on another wild goose chase of yours. If you have facts, post them. I'm not doing your work for you.
    The post is right there for you to read.

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    What conjecture? You never directly responded to the real data I showed about income inequality. Don't try to back out of an argument and say I offerred nothing when you refuse to deal with what I presented.

    Here again is real data from real professors looking at the issue.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059309268

    Your link was just opinion, there was no real data in there.

    And here's the problem with following income data in the first place.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/econom...-problems.html

    I'll just wait here for some real responses.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You mean cutting the taxes for the wealthy and deregulating? That is what has brought us to where we are today?
    Sure, and considering we're the current most prosperous nation in the world, and one of the highest in terms of law and order, human rights, and standard of living, I'd say it's a no-brainer.

    Like in China?
    Absolutely, like in China. It's growing, as China improves. It will continue to grow, and when it peaks, they will start to also reach some sort of equillibrium.
    In China's case, they will likely become the most wealthy nation on Earth. And it will have lifted more people out of poverty and into middle/upper class than any other single nation in history.

    For the last decade they have been moving in one direction, down.
    All data we've posted shows otherwise. The U.S. showed the world what a middle class is, and doing similar things the developing nations are likewise seeing "a meteoric rise" in middle class, living standards, etc. All contrary to your half-hearted claims otherwise. Serously, why are you debating this, it's embarassing.

    I have no problem with a properly regulated capitalist market with progressive taxation as we had in this country during its most prosperous time.This what we need to return to.
    I forget the liberal notion of propserity. Sieze the earnings of the best, and give it out to the worst, and take a snapshot and show that income is fairly well distributed and call it "prospering". Be serious.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    mainstream michael moore on the monied

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    LOL!
    catchya at the precincts, comrades
    bring the bolsheviks
    Wow. Although it's no different than some of our extremist liberal posters though. Sadly.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    The post is right there for you to read.
    Your first link takes me to a post by Boo Radley, where he says, "You think this is evidence? Not sure it's even evidence let alone proof. If anything it raises the question, but it doesn't settle it."

    Your second link takes me to a post by you where there is some confused ranting and a couple of charts, but a point was never made.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    [QUOTE=Mach;1059321659]Sure, and considering we're the current most prosperous nation in the world, and one of the highest in terms of law and order, human rights, and standard of living, I'd say it's a no-brainer.

    Our middle class is falling not growing. 7 out of 10 Americans now live below the poverty line (4 person household income below $22,050).


    Absolutely, like in China. It's growing, as China improves. It will continue to grow, and when it peaks, they will start to also reach some sort of equillibrium.
    In China's case, they will likely become the most wealthy nation on Earth. And it will have lifted more people out of poverty and into middle/upper class than any other single nation in history.
    So we should aspire to work harder for less money because $22,000 is just way too much money for a family of four. The middle class is not growing along with the GDP thats the problem. Not everybody's boat is floating at the same level. That is what this thread is about.


    All data we've posted shows otherwise
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    All the data shows the gap between the rich and the poor has grown.

    The U.S. showed the world what a middle class is, and doing similar things the developing nations are likewise seeing "a meteoric rise" in middle class, living standards, etc
    Because of the progressive tax system mainly. As it has been weakened, so has the middle class.

    I forget the liberal notion of propserity.
    Doing better than a family of four on $22,000? Yeah what a pipe dream a living wage is.

    Sieze the earnings of the best, and give it out to the worst, and take a snapshot and show that income is fairly well distributed and call it "prospering". Be serious
    You are calling our parents socialists and you want me to be serious?
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    you want me to be serious?
    not anymore

    LOL!

    meanwhile, TWO POINT FIVE TRILLION

    FT.com / US / Economy & Fed - US public pensions face $2,500bn shortfall

    another full HALF TRIL---pfft

    GAO Finds Massive Waste, Duplication - FoxBusiness.com

    in times like these

    bottom line, baby

    sober americans find THAT serious

    party on, petrograd

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I doesn't matter why they are not. The fact is that the opportunity is provided to them and they choose not to work anyway. Should we really be concerned about the contribution that these people add to unemployment?
    It matters when you make leaps about our overall work ethic, about what should be done for everyone, and somehow link it to the topic of this thread. It matters.

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