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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Ha! Opinion over facts? Not for me my friend!
    What helps you to remain comfortable. I know serious contestation can cause serious doubt. If denial's the best way to avoid the issue, then more power to you.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Data like what? I can't think of any data that would prove it any way. Do you know of any study into reasons why? I don't. But we can't assign reasons without doing something that addresses the reasoning.
    I doesn't matter why they are not. The fact is that the opportunity is provided to them and they choose not to work anyway. Should we really be concerned about the contribution that these people add to unemployment?

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I know serious contestation can cause serious doubt.
    Yeah, I've been waiting for that and all I get is unsubstantiated opinion.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    I would say the first place to start would be on the waste identified by the GAO, then we need to examine how our social programs can be modified to make them more sustainable, then lock those funds from being used to offset other government costs, reduce the size and spending of our military, then equitably set the tax rates to provide the income necessary to pay our bills. with enough left over to begin paying down our debt.
    The first chore will take years to resolve and it may take a Constitutional Amendment to make any progress. It is not possible for government to maintain any social programs simply because their first priority is getting elected and will thus never make the difficult decisions. We should know that by now.

    You mean I should throw the word fascist around like the way people throw the word communism around?
    You should never use any political terms unless they are appropriate to the occasion. And of course my meaning was quite clear and shouldn't need an explanation..

    Agreed. As Warren Buffett noted, "Thereís class warfare, all right, but itís my class, the rich class, thatís making war, and weíre winning."
    It sounds as though Warren was trying to be clever, but yes the rich will always tend to be rich because they know how to make money. That secret seems to elude many people. They seem to think the government can make them rich.
    Governments are the problem? Not the people we elect to run it? So your plan is to have no government?
    Certainly the people who were stupid enough to vote for Barrack Obama were part of the problem, but let's hope they won;t make that mistake twice.

    How do you feel my plan is to have no government? Whatever gave you that idea? You really must respond to what's in front of you rather than drifting off into some dream-state only you inhabit.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yeah, I've been waiting for that and all I get is unsubstantiated opinion.
    Maybe you should look at the links I've posted then. Plenty of facts that you're conviently ignoring such as the CBO data.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yeah, I've been waiting for that and all I get is unsubstantiated opinion.
    LOL!

    says the unreal revolutionary whose ratio of posts to links is a hundred to one

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    says the unreal revolutionary whose ratio of posts to links is a hundred to one

    48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions
    Before I even clicked your link I said to myself .... rasmussen........ an outlier as usual.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    says the unreal revolutionary whose ratio of posts to links is a hundred to one

    48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions
    Oh you finally found a conservative poll that says what you want. Congratulations! Now you have one out of 4 polls that show what you want. And the biggest poll will be in November of next year, when we choose between the party that represents the working class and the party that represents corporate greed.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Maybe you should look at the links I've posted then. Plenty of facts that you're conviently ignoring such as the CBO data.
    LOL! Like I'm going on another wild goose chase of yours. If you have facts, post them. I'm not doing your work for you.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    rasmussen........ an outlier as usual.
    so you cherry pick your polls?

    LOL!

    did you see that nyt/cbs questioned TWENTY PERCENT union households?

    why did CUOMO take such a hard line?

    didn't he see your survey?

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