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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If what you say were true than we would all be suffering equally. But that is not the case. Those at the very top are still increasing wealth while more of the middle class slips into poverty. Do you realize that one in seven Americans are now officially poor?
    When people are forced to send 50% of what they make to the government there is going to be less money in the hands of the people. That should be evident. Please keep in mind that income taxes are not the only source of government revenue. The poor pay just as much on taxes for a gallon of gas, among many thousands of other items, as the rich. With higher taxes they will naturally suffer disproportionately.
    "In census figures due out this week, the poverty rate is expected to jump from 13.2 percent in 2008 to almost 15 percent in 2009. That means one in seven Americans is now officially poor/"
    More American Families Slip into Poverty - CBS Evening News - CBS News
    I'm not surprised. We can look at Communist countries where there was virtually no middle class, just the poor and the political class, because the government had absolute control. That same sort of system is apparently, though unwittingly, being sought by some in the United States.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    When people are forced to send 50% of what they make to the government there is going to be less money in the hands of the people. That should be evident. Please keep in mind that income taxes are not the only source of government revenue. The poor pay just as much on taxes for a gallon of gas, among many thousands of other items, as the rich. With higher taxes they will naturally suffer disproportionately.
    That's one of the things I am talking about, the middle class are forced to send 50% of what they make to the government, while the top 1% pay much less and in some cases nothing. The other 50% the middle class spends on necessities with little left over to buy consumer goods. The top one percent have no such hardship.

    I'm not surprised. We can look at Communist countries where there was virtually no middle class, just the poor and the political class, because the government had absolute control. That same sort of system is apparently, though unwittingly, being sought by some in the United States
    No it is those that support a fascist state that has taken us on the dangerous path we are on. One of the first things to be done to pave the way for a fascist state is to get rid of the unions.

    But that would probably never happen, right?
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    I'm not surprised. We can look at Communist countries where there was virtually no middle class, just the poor and the political class, because the government had absolute control. That same sort of system is apparently, though unwittingly, being sought by some in the United States.
    By no one. The above is hysteria.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    a fascist state---LOL!

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's one of the things I am talking about, the middle class are forced to send 50% of what they make to the government, while the top 1% pay much less and in some cases nothing. The other 50% the middle class spends on necessities with little left over to buy consumer goods. The top one percent have no such hardship.
    So what's the answer?Clearly government spending has to be brought under control because it's evident the government will just waste the money no matter how much the public sends them, and will go further in debt by borrowing more money besides. They can never get enough money. If the rich were to send them all their money, every penny, that would still not be enough to pay of the debts, and the programs that are throwing the money into the bottomless sinkhole would still be in place. But then you would have every American broke, including those who have tended to create the wealth. But before that happens, of course, the people who have the money will leave, and there are signs they are doing that now.


    No it is those that support a fascist state that has taken us on the dangerous path we are on. One of the first things to be done to pave the way for a fascist state is to get rid of the unions.
    You really shouldn't throw these terms around unless you understand them. Tennessee is not a 'Fascist State", nor is South Carolina. In fact these are states where the population are growing. Union thugs trying to take over the economy are more fitting for the "fascist" term.

    But that would probably never happen, right
    There certainly seems to be some who have fascist tendencies, such as dividing society into different factions and turning on one segment against the other (the 'the rich' and 'the poor' would be one example) without looking at the genuine source of the problems. That would be an economies being ruined by out of control governments. Governments have always caused more problems than the people they were ostensibly intended to serve.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    By no one. The above is hysteria.
    I have money, don't live in the States, so am hardly hysterical. I was using an example of how a powerful government, intent on controling state wealth can cause the shrinking of the middle class to nothing. We see that trending now, and it will continue until government is once again broight under some control.

    I didn;t think the analogy would be that difficult to grasp.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So naturally you support the party representing the super rich, shoving more of the middle class under the poverty line so more welfare is needed and they have less money to be a consumer. You really haven't thought this through, have you?
    another stupid strawman argument. I would be happy to compare my thought process with yours any day conerning this subject. YOu also blatantly misrepresent what my position is and which party supports the uber rich



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    a fascist state---LOL!
    some on the left are still hysterical over the November results and are reduced to mindless psychobabbling



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    another stupid strawman argument. I would be happy to compare my thought process with yours any day conerning this subject. YOu also blatantly misrepresent what my position is and which party supports the uber rich
    What makes you believe that the party that opposes the party that focuses on tax breaks for the wealthiest of Americans as well as lessening oversight and relaxing regulations allowing for more profit at a cost to the consumer is the one that supports the uber rich?
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I didn't think the analogy would be that difficult to grasp.
    Possibly if I subscribed to popular political illusions I would understand it, but to me it sounds retardulous.

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