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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Every single freaking Liberal could vote Conservative and it wouldn't change their lack of wealth at all.

    People who are wealthy tend to vote in favor of measures that will CONTINUE to preserve their wealth.
    No, but if they got off their asses and worked harder, it just might. Gotta make your own luck.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    lol...yes, the rich ARE demanding gov't services through corporate welfare.
    really? how many? prove it

    and again I see lots of whining about the gap but what are your solutions

    I realize that there will always be a gap and as long as investments are making money the rich willl continue to get richer



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    unions like that too-if a company fails not only do the owners and shareholders take a bath so do the people who have jobs there

    the bailout of GM was a union benefit
    It goes beyond that. Decades and decades of tax payer dollars going to corporations. Where's the outrage?

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that does happen-bernie maddoff for example. and I bashed him constantly. and I was against the bailouts

    but the rich aren't the ones demanding others pay for the government services they use because the rich pay far more in taxes than what they use.
    Corporate WELFARE accounts for MORE 'giving' to these massive corporate and conglomerate chash cows than the government gives through it's various social-programs such as TANF and TEA.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Corporate WELFARE accounts for MORE 'giving' to these massive corporate and conglomerate chash cows than the government gives through it's various social-programs such as TANF and TEA.
    That's absolutely correct. Yet, little to no outrage.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It goes beyond that. Decades and decades of tax payer dollars going to corporations. Where's the outrage?
    Well, Democrats had just as much opportunity to change this as the Republicans did... where's the outrage?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    really? how many? prove it
    What do you think TARP was all about? And that wasn't the first OR LAST go around for Corporate welfare handouts, either.

    Look at Chrysler - They were handed one hell of a pretty penny - and for what? Only to fail again. . . and again.


    and again I see lots of whining about the gap but what are your solutions

    I realize that there will always be a gap and as long as investments are making money the rich willl continue to get richer
    solutions: Doing what works well in other countries - and taking from the very rich and just giving it to the very poor does nothing. This needs to be done through programs that have been tried and proven to work - improving education, contraception availability, transportation and job-connections, etc.

    Our systm currently does work (the welfare portion) for many - it acts as a net for when people lose their job for vairous reasons (etc) and need temporary help while they get things back together - this is great, it should be continued and possibly expanded in some ways.

    All of these things you oppose.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well, Democrats had just as much opportunity to change this as the Republicans did... where's the outrage?
    You're right about that. But I'm not out here demonizing working folk. And republicans haven't changed **** when it comes to corporate welfare. They're fine with it. Sadly, bothi sides have been fine with. But your side, republicans, have been attacking working folks. I just don't know why you support that, and not want them to tackle corporate welfare.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're right about that. But I'm not out here demonizing working folk. And republicans haven't changed **** when it comes to corporate welfare. They're fine with it. Sadly, bothi sides have been fine with. But your side, republicans, have been attacking working folks. I just don't know why you support that, and not want them to tackle corporate welfare.
    Because with wealth comes power - they don't want to tackle corporate welfare because all those failling and poorly functioning companies do a lot of business with and for the government.

    It's the Elite and their thug loving selves . . .we're just constituents with votes.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    I have been on both sides of this issue. I'm glad I jumped on the "get your ass in gear and make something of yourself" boat a long time ago. I love this cruise ship, the USS Patrician. It is sad to see the docks filling up with plebians.

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