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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

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    Meaning not using birth control properly?
    or not keeping their legs shut at age 15



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post


    The only person in my husband's family who EVER lifted a finger to do hard work in their entire wealth-building history was Great Grandfather Hauna who bought land in California and had a winery for quite some time - and during that time he also started a plumbing business and patented a few items here and there.

    The family has lived for 3 generations off of only one mans innovation, initiative and hardwork. They're scummy lowlife rednecks injecting and snorting his inheritence away. They have his wealth - but they don't have his work ethics or values.
    Do you think this is an unsual story? Nope, it's not.

    They'd be homeless drug addicted bums if the property of his near Fremont, Ca wasn't worth a fortune when they sold it 10 years ago or so.

    You only THINK that all those who are well off somehow did something in their life to earn it - when really it's mostly just an accident of birth. There are very FEW wealthy individuals who actually built their fortunes FROM nothing and WITH hardwork and perserverance. Most haven't done a damn thing for it.
    your personal issues mean nothing

    your claims are bs and ooze envy. most millionaires in the USA are first generation. but if someone has a wealthy father who cares ?? they at least aren't costing you any money and you should have no right to demand their wealth just because you aren't as lucky

    many top professional athletes are that way because of the talent they get from their parents. many of the top ladies tennis pros for example are the daughters of world class athletes. Kim Clijsters father was a world famous soccer player, her mom a world class gymnast. Svetlana Kutznova is the sister of an olympic medalist and the daughter of a 6 time world cycling champ
    the current world #1 Caroline Wozniacki is the daughter of a professional soccer star, and former wimbledon semi finalist alexandra stevenson is Dr J's daughter Division one B-ball is full of the sons of pro players

    so how are you gonna handle that legacy?



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    We know that the wealth gap in this country is widening. We also know that social mobility in the United States is on the decline, which really makes it hard to believe that most wealthy Americans are of the "rags to riches" type. Most likely they inherited a certain degree of wealth, or at least were accorded better resources (better primary education, personal connections leading to job opportunities, etc.) This isn't to say that those who are wealthy didn't earn it or aren't hard workers, but it can't be denied that many who are wealthy had a step up from the rest. In the real world, wealth is derived from capital and assets, and these are handed down through generations. The wealthiest people are making money even when they're sleeping, the money makes itself.
    i don't begrudge anyone their money, even the the teachers who belong to the unions, unlike others here. equal opportunity is what i want for all of our citizens. i do not understand why so many here seem to have such disdain for poor or lower middle class people, indeed, even middle class people.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    or not keeping their legs shut at age 15
    The vitriol is strong with this one.

    But yet when a single rich dick ****s up and he takes his entire corporation, all his employees, their families, and even whole towns down with them I never hear you complain.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    your personal issues mean nothing
    your claims are bs and ooze envy. most millionaires in the USA are first generation. but if someone has a wealthy father who cares ?? they at least aren't costing you any money and you should have no right to demand their wealth just because you aren't as lucky
    many top professional athletes are that way because of the talent they get from their parents. many of the top ladies tennis pros for example are the daughters of world class athletes. Kim Clijsters father was a world famous soccer player, her mom a world class gymnast. Svetlana Kutznova is the sister of an olympic medalist and the daughter of a 6 time world cycling champ
    the current world #1 Caroline Wozniacki is the daughter of a professional soccer star, and former wimbledon semi finalist alexandra stevenson is Dr J's daughter Division one B-ball is full of the sons of pro players
    so how are you gonna handle that legacy?
    We went from an article discussing a growing wealth gap - and you jump right back to the 'redistribution of wealth' thing.

    Why do you always associate one with the other - can we not discuss 'a lot of people are filthy ****ing rich and a lot of people aren't' without people assuming that means we're all in favor of actually TAKINg form one and GIVING to the other?

    We've discussed this before - you're hellbent on running 'the poor' into the ground and uplifting the rich.
    All I want is for you to admit that 'being wealthy' doesn't mean you KNOW how to actually handle, make or manage and the power that goes with it any better than someone who doesn't even have any

    On that note - I SEE that just GIVING money to the poor doesn't help them out at all - that's like treating a headache with an aspirin without trying to figure out WHAT is causing the headache.

    As I've stated - I don't support redistribution because i don't believe it's going to *stop* people from being poor and underprivileged.
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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The vitriol is strong with this one.

    But yet when a single rich dick ****s up and he takes his entire corporation, all his employees, their families, and even whole towns down with them I never hear you complain.
    No ****!

    I really don't know how to even respond to some of it.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The vitriol is strong with this one.

    But yet when a single rich dick ****s up and he takes his entire corporation, all his employees, their families, and even whole towns down with them I never hear you complain.
    that does happen-bernie maddoff for example. and I bashed him constantly. and I was against the bailouts

    but the rich aren't the ones demanding others pay for the government services they use because the rich pay far more in taxes than what they use.



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that does happen-bernie maddoff for example. and I bashed him constantly. and I was against the bailouts

    but the rich aren't the ones demanding others pay for the government services they use because the rich pay far more in taxes than what they use.
    Well, actually they are. Look up corporate welfare.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that does happen-bernie maddoff for example. and I bashed him constantly. and I was against the bailouts

    but the rich aren't the ones demanding others pay for the government services they use because the rich pay far more in taxes than what they use.
    lol...yes, the rich ARE demanding gov't services through corporate welfare.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Well, actually they are. Look up corporate welfare.
    unions like that too-if a company fails not only do the owners and shareholders take a bath so do the people who have jobs there

    the bailout of GM was a union benefit



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    Re: Rich-Poor gap widening

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that does happen-bernie maddoff for example. and I bashed him constantly. and I was against the bailouts

    but the rich aren't the ones demanding others pay for the government services they use because the rich pay far more in taxes than what they use.
    ENRON comes to mind as well... that happened before my time here but I don't know of anyone who didn't complain about those assholes.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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