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    Re: Oil industry worries Libya unrest could spread

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    To be replaced by sane alternatives which are already widely available. Nuclear is one.
    Whose going to pay for that? A better question: who are the guys that are going to make up the next generation of rich ass energy barons?
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    Re: Oil industry worries Libya unrest could spread

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    Whose going to pay for that? A better question: who are the guys that are going to make up the next generation of rich ass energy barons?
    I don't really care if people get super rich off the energy sector, as long as the energy itself is properly maintained and isn't harming the environment or people. Unlike many I am not an enemy of profit. In fact, I would like to see the green energy sector become profitable so that those addicted to money making (like the oil industry) could shift gears and channel their obsession into something that is good for everyone.

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    Re: Oil industry worries Libya unrest could spread

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I don't really care if people get super rich off the energy sector, as long as the energy itself is properly maintained and isn't harming the environment or people.
    So, what's to become of all that nuclear waste?


    Unlike many I am not an enemy of profit.
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    In fact, I would like to see the green energy sector become profitable so that those addicted to money making (like the oil industry) could shift gears and channel their obsession into something that is good for everyone.
    The oil companies--the big ones anyway--have dumped billions into green energy projects and can't make them work. Shell abandoned it's green energy projects, because they're just not practical enough to bring on line.

    I've said all along, that is green energy was a winner, the oil companies would already have their thumb in that pie, which is why it's foolish to up-n-halt oil production in favor of green energy.
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    Re: Oil industry worries Libya unrest could spread

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    So, what's to become of all that nuclear waste?
    It gets burried in special places, like it always has.

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    The oil companies--the big ones anyway--have dumped billions into green energy projects and can't make them work. Shell abandoned it's green energy projects, because they're just not practical enough to bring on line.
    Can't make them work? I don't think that's what happened. Europe is making them work, even if only as a supplement. The thing is that we don't have to completely cut out oil just yet, we only need to learn to conserve and supplement. If we could even cut oil use in half, that would save us a lot of money on useless wars and having to uselessly drill in places only to find oil that will last us another couple of years. Our enemies have a strangle hold on us and it's mostly all resource based.

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    I've said all along, that is green energy was a winner, the oil companies would already have their thumb in that pie, which is why it's foolish to up-n-halt oil production in favor of green energy.
    Hmmm I don't think so. Green energy is not as profitable as oil in the long term because there is no real processing involved, just maintenance of the technology. If you put up a solar pannel, the energy is coming from the sun, not digging something out of the earth and processing it. The oil market is also tentatively more lucrative because the demand is still so high. There are always buyers. Green technology has not reached demand levels that are profitable.

    We could make the technology work. It's widely available. The problem is incentivizing the shift, and the government doesn't seem to want to do that, even though it would be cheaper than dishing out trillions on foreign resource wars.

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    Re: Oil industry worries Libya unrest could spread

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    It gets burried in special places, like it always has.



    Can't make them work? I don't think that's what happened. Europe is making them work, even if only as a supplement. The thing is that we don't have to completely cut out oil just yet, we only need to learn to conserve and supplement. If we could even cut oil use in half, that would save us a lot of money on useless wars and having to uselessly drill in places only to find oil that will last us another couple of years. Our enemies have a strangle hold on us and it's mostly all resource based.



    Hmmm I don't think so. Green energy is not as profitable as oil in the long term because there is no real processing involved, just maintenance of the technology. If you put up a solar pannel, the energy is coming from the sun, not digging something out of the earth and processing it. The oil market is also tentatively more lucrative because the demand is still so high. There are always buyers. Green technology has not reached demand levels that are profitable.

    We could make the technology work. It's widely available. The problem is incentivizing the shift, and the government doesn't seem to want to do that, even though it would be cheaper than dishing out trillions on foreign resource wars.
    That's not the government's job.
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    Re: Oil industry worries Libya unrest could spread

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No dumber than causing gas prices to head toward double digits and not try to do a damn thing about it.
    We were warned 40 years ago when we passed peak oil in this country. Its kind of late to be whining about it just now isn't it?
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    Re: Oil industry worries Libya unrest could spread

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    We were warned 40 years ago when we passed peak oil in this country. Its kind of late to be whining about it just now isn't it?
    Carter came up with a plan to make the US energy independant and Reagan scrapped it because oil company profits were dropping.
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

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    Re: Oil industry worries Libya unrest could spread

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    Carter came up with a plan to make the US energy independant and Reagan scrapped it because oil company profits were dropping.
    Yep, I was there and saw how tragically short-sighted that was. That short-sightedness is being brought home more and more in soaring gas prices as we approach world peak oil. But despite the warning by the military, some still don't get the connection. We've made paying the piper so much more expensive for ourselves than we needed to.
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    Re: Oil industry worries Libya unrest could spread

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yep, I was there and saw how tragically short-sighted that was. That short-sightedness is being brought home more and more in soaring gas prices as we approach world peak oil. But despite the warning by the military, some still don't get the connection. We've made paying the piper so much more expensive for ourselves than we needed to.
    I was there too. It was amazing that right after sufferring the oil crisis they acted like it would never happen again. Reagan's shortsightedness and his support of oil company profits led this country down the road to disaster. Now Reagans the hero and Carters the goat. Go figure.
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

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    Re: Oil industry worries Libya unrest could spread

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    I was there too. It was amazing that right after sufferring the oil crisis they acted like it would never happen again. Reagan's shortsightedness and his support of oil company profits led this country down the road to disaster. Now Reagans the hero and Carters the goat. Go figure.
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