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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Name me any other administration that has done more for alternative energy?
    one alternative energy and the other not ... but the same administration:

    Jimmy Carter's

    those solar panels, some of which were installed on the roof of the white house (only to be removed and destroyed by reagan when he took over). tell me he wasn't prescient:
    "In the year 2000 this solar water heater behind me, which is being dedicated today, will still be here supplying cheap, efficient energy…. A generation from now, this solar heater can either be a curiosity, a museum piece, an example of a road not taken or it can be just a small part of one of the greatest and most exciting adventures ever undertaken by the American people."
    Where Did the Carter White House's Solar Panels Go?: Scientific American

    during uncle Jimmy's administration, we had special sba loans for businesses engaged in alternative energies and in energy conservation

    but when the rules - and the oil prices changed - causing alternative energy/conservation to be more costly (in the short term) than using oil, those businesses floundered. if they had been provided the market incentives to thrive, where would we be today? i guarantee you it would not be our present day circumstance of kissing the asses of saudi royals

    i invite - encourage - our members to read his speech advancing a national energy policy. the one which was not heeded
    WGBH American Experience . Jimmy Carter . Proposed Energy Policy | PBS

    again, tell me he wasn't prescient

    Obama blew it, in my never so humble opinion
    for the first year, he had a mandate, and the house and senate ... but failed to push thru a national energy independence initiative, giving the nation a huge objective, in such a way as as JFK launched the national space program

    HUGE opportunity lost
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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    one alternative energy and the other not ... but the same administration:

    Jimmy Carter's

    those solar panels, some of which were installed on the roof of the white house (only to be removed and destroyed by reagan when he took over). tell me he wasn't prescient:
    Where Did the Carter White House's Solar Panels Go?: Scientific American

    during uncle Jimmy's administration, we had special sba loans for businesses engaged in alternative energies and in energy conservation

    but when the rules - and the oil prices changed - causing alternative energy/conservation to be more costly (in the short term) than using oil, those businesses floundered. if they had been provided the market incentives to thrive, where would we be today? i guarantee you it would not be our present day circumstance of kissing the asses of saudi royals

    i invite - encourage - our members to read his speech advancing a national energy policy. the one which was not heeded
    WGBH American Experience . Jimmy Carter . Proposed Energy Policy | PBS

    again, tell me he wasn't prescient

    Obama blew it, in my never so humble opinion
    for the first year, he had a mandate, and the house and senate ... but failed to push thru a national energy independence initiative, giving the nation a huge objective, in such a way as as JFK launched the national space program

    HUGE opportunity lost

    I concede your point about Carter JB. Even though he may not have provided as much funding for clean energy as Obama has, he had the vision to see the need first and started programs, that if not scrapped by Reagan, would have us energy independent today. Absolutely no argument that was a HUGE opportunity lost! I also do not feel Obama has done near enough, but I acknowledge he has done more than any Republican president before him.
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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    one alternative energy and the other not ... but the same administration:

    Jimmy Carter's

    those solar panels, some of which were installed on the roof of the white house (only to be removed and destroyed by reagan when he took over). tell me he wasn't prescient:
    Where Did the Carter White House's Solar Panels Go?: Scientific American

    during uncle Jimmy's administration, we had special sba loans for businesses engaged in alternative energies and in energy conservation

    but when the rules - and the oil prices changed - causing alternative energy/conservation to be more costly (in the short term) than using oil, those businesses floundered. if they had been provided the market incentives to thrive, where would we be today? i guarantee you it would not be our present day circumstance of kissing the asses of saudi royals

    i invite - encourage - our members to read his speech advancing a national energy policy. the one which was not heeded
    WGBH American Experience . Jimmy Carter . Proposed Energy Policy | PBS

    again, tell me he wasn't prescient

    Obama blew it, in my never so humble opinion
    for the first year, he had a mandate, and the house and senate ... but failed to push thru a national energy independence initiative, giving the nation a huge objective, in such a way as as JFK launched the national space program

    HUGE opportunity lost
    IOW, the government should have created an artificial market so that those companies could make money. If they can't stand on their own two feet, on the strength of their product, they shouldn't be propped up by the government.
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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    We have 2 kinds of energy needs, electricity, and oil.
    There really aren't any technological impediments to making more electricity.
    Our major problem is oil. There are no alternatives to oil, only supplements, and those are in short supply.
    The only viable answer at the moment is conservation.
    Gasoline and diesel prices MUST go up and be taxed more. It is the only way we can be coerced into conserving oil supplies.
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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

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    I am just trying to find more information about the company since the stimulus money was given. What's your point? Did you even read what I wrote?
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