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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no try
    fact

    think there would have been any form of space program to place the satellites into orbit but for government

    you folks haven't a clue
    Did you not read multi-national?? you think the Russians would have not sent it up, had NASA not been there? You're utterly clueless.

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Is this the green industry that we'er supposed to depend on for jobs?
    He should be sinking even more in.

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    nice try...
    Telstar was the first active, direct relay communications satellite. Belonging to AT&T as part of a multi-national agreement between AT&T, Bell Telephone Laboratories, NASA, the British General Post Office, and the French National PTT (Post Office) to develop satellite communications, it was launched by NASA from Cape Canaveral on July 10, 1962, the first privately sponsored space launch.
    The government (NASA) developed the technology and these entities paid for the launch which was a very small considering the development costs.


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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The government (NASA) developed the technology and these entities paid for the launch which was a very small considering the development costs.
    NASA did not design or develop the satellite. All they did was launch it and do some tracking. The satellite was built by a team at Bell Telephone Laboratories.

    Facts are your friends PB... learn to use them.

    Bell Labs - Telstar
    Bell Telephone Laboratories designed and built the Telstar spacecraft with AT&T corporate funds. The first Telstars were prototypes that would prove the concepts behind the large constellation system that was being planned. NASA's contribution to the project was to launch the satellites and provide some tracking and telemetry functions, but AT&T bore all the costs of the project reimbursing NASA $6 million.

    yet another PWNAGE of PB, courtesy of Whovian.
    Last edited by Whovian; 02-24-11 at 09:11 PM.

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    NASA did not design or develop the satellite. All they did was launch it and do some tracking. The satellite was built by a team at Bell Telephone Laboratories.
    No **** sherlock, you're ****ing brilliant. A satellite is useless unless you have a way to get it in space.

    yet another PWNAGE of PB, courtesy of Whovian.
    Sophomoric garbage, grow up.


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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    No **** sherlock, you're ****ing brilliant. A satellite is useless unless you have a way to get it in space.


    Sophomoric garbage, grow up.
    My God.. how can you not understand the nonsense you spout?

    You specifically said 'the government (NASA) developed the technology'... I just PROVED you wrong... the government did NOT develop the technology behind the Telstar satellite... private enterprise did.

    the ONLY thing NASA did was fulfill a contract to launch it. As I pointed out earlier in the thread, had NASA never existed, Russia would have been happy to get the credit for launching the first communications satellite.

    You... were... wrong.

    Man up. You have been weighed... you have been measured.. and you have been found very VERY wanting.

    Complete and utter PWNAGE.

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Locke said the exact same thing at Copenhagen, Denmark.
    Remarks at Opening Ceremony, Bright Green Expo, Copenhagen, Denmark | Department of Commerce


    He's just blathering talking points, and you're buying it.

    And didn't Copenhagen turn out to be a complete bust anyway:

    Secretary of Commerce Secretary Gary Locke is not one to blather liberal talking points.
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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Secretary of Commerce Secretary Gary Locke is not one to blather liberal talking points.
    yet there he was... two different speeches... blatherign away. Go figure.

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I wonder even more, if the Libbos would give him a free passs on all those jobs he killed, in the middle of a depression, if he were a Conservative.
    Stop it...you're just being wrong-headed here. You'd first have to acknolwedge that such jobs ever existed before you can claim that his policies/initiative took them away. Since Republicans have made the claim that the Obama Administration can't accurately count the number of jobs the Stimulus created, how can your side logically make the claim that jobs have bee lost on his policies alone? Answer: YOU CAN'T!

    You can theorize, hypthosize, postulate, but you'd first have to know that such jobs exsisted beforehand. We CAN say that jobs were lost under G.W. Bush near the end of his tenure because the evidence is overwhelming there. Labor statistics bore that out. The ONLY true measuring stick that can be applied to the job numbers under President Obama are those same labor statistics since he took office and initiated his policies. And by all accounts, his initiatives have created jobs. Maybe not in the numbers you'd like them to be, but NO ONE can discount the fact that there has been job growth in both the private AND public sectors since he took office. So, let's stop with this BS detracting talking point. It's old and very much UNTRUE and NOT substatiated by facts.

    I answered that question, before you asked it. I think that everything, fossil fuels, green energy, bio-fuels and yes, clean coal, should all be brought on line and employed together.
    Good. You're coming around.

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    yet there he was... two different speeches... blatherign away. Go figure.
    Name me any other administration that has done more for alternative energy?
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