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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We would, if everything was brought on line--wind, solar, bio-fuels, petro-fuels. But, oh no, that'll never happen, because the treehuggers have too big-a-hard on for the oil companies. The green movement is mostly about the environment, but there's a political factor involved, too.
    Ok firstly, do you have actual numbers to back that up?
    And secondly, how are you railing against investment in green energy while saying we need more wind, solar, and bio fuels? Not that I disagree.

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Ok firstly, do you have actual numbers to back that up?
    And secondly, how are you railing against investment in green energy while saying we need more wind, solar, and bio fuels? Not that I disagree.
    I advocate using green energy, in tandem with fossil fuels and you still want to argue that I'm wrong.

    What was that you were saying it not being agenda driven?

    I think, at the end of the day, this has more to do with the evil oil companies than anything else.
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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    While I will be the first to say Obama has not done enough in investing in and promoting clean energy, I do give him credit for doing more than any president in history, in just his first 2 years in office.

    "Iím proud to say that President Obama has already done more to mitigate climate change and invest in clean energy than any president in U.S. history"
    - Secretary of Commerce Secretary Gary Locke

    Remarks at American Chamber of Commerce Shanghai and U.S.-China Business Council, Shanghai | Department of Commerce
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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    While I will be the first to say Obama has not done enough in investing in and promoting clean energy, I do give him credit for doing more than any president in history, in just his first 2 years in office.

    - Secretary of Commerce Secretary Gary Locke

    Remarks at American Chamber of Commerce Shanghai and U.S.-China Business Council, Shanghai | Department of Commerce
    It's not the government's job to invest in clean energy.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    While I will be the first to say Obama has not done enough in investing in and promoting clean energy, I do give him credit for doing more than any president in history, in just his first 2 years in office.

    - Secretary of Commerce Secretary Gary Locke

    Remarks at American Chamber of Commerce Shanghai and U.S.-China Business Council, Shanghai | Department of Commerce
    Locke said the exact same thing at Copenhagen, Denmark.
    Remarks at Opening Ceremony, Bright Green Expo, Copenhagen, Denmark | Department of Commerce
    And I'm proud to say that in just under a year in office, President Obama has already done more to mitigate climate change and create positive incentives for clean energy and efficiency than any president in United States history.
    He's just blathering talking points, and you're buying it.

    And didn't Copenhagen turn out to be a complete bust anyway:

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not the government's job to invest in clean energy.
    how dare the government develop the internet
    or nuclear power
    or construct the interstate highways system
    or launch communications satellites into space

    backwards people seem to want to remain backwards
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not the government's job to invest in clean energy.
    I often wonder if Obama had been a Republican making the same push for clean/alternative/renewable energy if yourself and other pundits would fight so hard against federal funding for such initiatives. I am curious, however, how would you go about making this...partnership...of clean energy work alongside big oil and coal?

    Not a trick question...just want to know your thoughts on the matter. You can PM me if you'd like.
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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I often wonder if Obama had been a Republican making the same push for clean/alternative/renewable energy if yourself and other pundits would fight so hard against federal funding for such initiatives.
    I wonder even more, if the Libbos would give him a free passs on all those jobs he killed, in the middle of a depression, if he were a Conservative.


    I am curious, however, how would you go about making this...partnership...of clean energy work alongside big oil and coal?

    Not a trick question...just want to know your thoughts on the matter. You can PM me if you'd like.
    I answered that question, before you asked it. I think that everything, fossil fuels, green energy, bio-fuels and yes, clean coal, should all be brought on line and employed together.
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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    how dare the government develop the internet
    or nuclear power
    or construct the interstate highways system
    or launch communications satellites into space

    backwards people seem to want to remain backwards
    nice try...
    Telstar was the first active, direct relay communications satellite. Belonging to AT&T as part of a multi-national agreement between AT&T, Bell Telephone Laboratories, NASA, the British General Post Office, and the French National PTT (Post Office) to develop satellite communications, it was launched by NASA from Cape Canaveral on July 10, 1962, the first privately sponsored space launch.

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    Re: Confirmed: Obama administration sunk $535 million in Porkulus funds in green-ener

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    nice try...
    no try
    fact

    think there would have been any form of space program to place the satellites into orbit but for government

    you folks haven't a clue
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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