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Libyan Commanders Should Face Justice for Killings

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Libya: Commanders Should Face Justice for Killings | Human Rights Watch

Human Rights Watch interviewed one protester by Skype on the evening of February 21 who described what he saw:


The hospitals in Tripoli ran out of the blood yesterday evening. At the beginning of the protest a Land Cruiser drove past firing at people in front of it randomly. I can hear the sound of gunfire and large explosions. We saw loads of Land Cruisers full of masked men in military uniforms and heavy machine guns heading to where the huge protests are downtown. Men wearing civilian clothing in the square were shooting at us. We heard later that Abu Salim hospital was broken into. I saw guys taking off their shirts and exposing their chests to the snipers. I've never seen anything like it, I was very ashamed to hide under a tree but I am human.

Amazing heroism in pursuit of freedom. I wonder why more Americans don't seem to be paying attention.
 
Amazing heroism in pursuit of freedom. I wonder why more Americans don't seem to be paying attention.

Oh they'll pay attention soon enough...

Oil holds near 2-1/2 year highs on Libya revolt - chicagotribune.com

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Oil prices held firm near 2-1/2 year highs on Tuesday as the revolt in Libya disrupted more supplies, but there was no repeat of Monday's spike as both OPEC and the IEA said they could help meet any shortage.

Turmoil in Libya drove prices as much as 6 percent higher in the previous session, taking Brent crude in London to almost $109 a barrel for the first time since 2008.

Take away the Libyan supply completely and holy **** people are going to start taking an interest.
 
Because The Messiah is ignoring the situation. That's why. He's sooooo worried that he'll be seen as meddling, that he's afraid to do the right thing.

Libya is particarly vulnerable to Islamist forces unlike Egypt and other countries. If the US is seen as "meddling" it will strengthen their cause.

Or do you want an Islamist regime in Libya, I thought you were against such things APDST, but thats the problem with you sometimes, you can't see the bigger picture.

Obama is doing the right thing, personally I wish America had their own version of the "Prime Directive" which forbids interference in other countries affairs... but of course in an ideal world that would be ok, but since the Middle East is such a big oil producer that simply cannot be the case now can it.

Unless of course you became free of Foriegn oil, then you wouldn't have to worry about any of that, but doing such a thing would be "socialism".

And I swear to god if you start going on about drilling at home I will break my keyboard, you guys don't have enough oil in Alaska or the gulf to keep up with domestic demand.
 
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Libya is particarly vulnerable to Islamist forces unlike Egypt and other countries. If the US is seen as "meddling" it will strengthen their cause.

Or do you want an Islamist regime in Libya, I thought you were against such things APDST, but thats the problem with you sometimes, you can't see the bigger picture.

Obama is doing the right thing, personally I wish America had their own version of the "Prime Directive" which forbids interference in other countries affairs... but of course in an ideal world that would be ok, but since the Middle East is such a big oil producer that simply cannot be the case now can it.

Unless of course you became free of Foriegn oil, then you wouldn't have to worry about any of that, but doing such a thing would be "socialism".

And I swear to god if you start going on about drilling at home I will break my keyboard, you guys don't have enough oil in Alaska or the gulf to keep up with domestic demand.

All the more reason we need to get involved, instead of being seen and sideliners.
 
All the more reason we need to get involved, instead of being seen and sideliners.

If **** gets bad, I could see America stepping in, there'd be nothing to stop them.

But here's the other side of the coin, what are you proposing exactly? Invasion, arming a faction and hope they win the civil war, supporting yet another autocrat? Whats your solution apdst?
 
If **** gets bad, I could see America stepping in, there'd be nothing to stop them.

It would have to become Biblical bad for Obama to make that move.

But here's the other side of the coin, what are you proposing exactly? Invasion, arming a faction and hope they win the civil war, supporting yet another autocrat? Whats your solution apdst?

I'm not making any specific proposal--aside from not invading. I'm only saying we need to get involved and help the moderate elements--if there are any--among the anti-goverment forces oust Qhadaffi. Sitting on the sidelines isn't an option, IMO.
 
We need to like... send a guy... to like... calm things down and make them our friends... or something.
 
Because The Messiah is ignoring the situation. That's why. He's sooooo worried that he'll be seen as meddling, that he's afraid to do the right thing.

Here comes the hyperpartisan crap again.......

Trust me, you do NOT want to go there..............

From George W. Bush's 2004 State of the Union Speech:

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons. Colonel Qadhafi correctly judged that his country would be better off, and far more secure, without weapons of mass murder. Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible -- and no one can now doubt the word of America.
Nice speech. Bush got rid of existing sanctions, while Libya was still committing human rights violations and even murder. Who opened up the door for Gadhafi Duck to stay in power? Read the quote.

And from the Federal Government's own web site:

U.S. diplomatic personnel reopened the U.S. Interest Section in Tripoli on February 8, 2004. The mission was upgraded to a U.S. Liaison Office on June 28, 2004, and to a full embassy on May 31, 2006. The establishment in 2005 of an American School in Tripoli demonstrates the increased presence of Americans in Libya, and the continuing normalization of bilateral relations. Libya re-established its diplomatic presence in Washington with the opening of an Interest Section on July 8, 2004, which was subsequently upgraded to a Liaison Office in December 2004 and to a full embassy on May 31, 2006.

On May 15, 2006, the State Department announced its intention to rescind Libya's designation as a state sponsor of terrorism in recognition of the fact that Libya had met the statutory requirements for such a move: it had not provided any support for acts of international terrorism in the preceding 6-month period, and had provided assurances that it would not do so in the future. On June 30, 2006, the U.S. rescinded Libya's designation as a state sponsor of terrorism.

But Obama didn't take office until January of 2009? So who did all this?

You see, 2 can play this silly game.

You lose. Thanx for playing. :mrgreen:
 
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Game over man! Reset, insert coin, pull the plug, hit the power button, zero lives, wamp wamp wamp marios dead.

Oh
step


what you got?
 
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