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    Re: Planned Parenthood and the Sentor from James town makes a good point

    Some posts are ridiculous. 97% of Planned Parenthood services are education, birth control, diagnosis and treatment of STD's, medical examinations and medical referrals. Only 3% of their services include abortion, and (as mentioned in the OP's link) no federal money is used by PP for abortion services because the damned Hyde Amendment makes it illegal to do so.

    I get so sick of the lies being told every time the word "abortion" pops up in a thread. Grates on my last nerve.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood and the Sentor from James town makes a good point

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm a business operator. Tax hikes hit me, just like they hit the super rich.

    The Dems were so obsessed with screwing the, "rich", that they let the Making Work Pay tax break expire. Nice job at helping the working folks, again.
    I, personally, am talking about those that make millions per year and more. Billions are even better. I can't speak for all liberals, but that's just my opinion. Small business operators are crutial to society and don't make nearly enough to face high taxes (it really affects the employees even more than the owners).

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    Re: Planned Parenthood and the Sentor from James town makes a good point

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Everybody that supports planned parenthood, should break out their checkbooks and make a donation. Shouldn't that big-a-deal. Right? It's outrageous that planned parenthood has gotten government money at all, much less as long as they have.
    So you are okay with us pulling funding from the military and asking those who support it to donate to it themselves? Shouldn't that big-a-deal. Right?
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    Re: Planned Parenthood and the Sentor from James town makes a good point

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    Shoulda, woulda, coulda. We're not going to let children starve or suffer lack of clothing or shelter. Surely you can't even be suggesting that. We can pay for comprehensive sex ed in schools and try to make birth control accessible or we can pay for babies.

    You know there's no point admonishing women concerning what they SHOULD HAVE done. Once a woman is pregnant, it's too late for that. We have to deal with what IS right now. Neither is it very effective to admonish women about what they SHOULD DO in the future. All we can do is educate them and hope for the best, if the result is less than the best, then we still have to deal with what IS right now.
    We can teach comprehensive sex-ed in schools and defund planned parenthood. Planned Parenthood just doesn't need government funds, they have plenty of assets allready.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood and the Sentor from James town makes a good point

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I, personally, am talking about those that make millions per year and more. Billions are even better. I can't speak for all liberals, but that's just my opinion. Small business operators are crutial to society and don't make nearly enough to face high taxes (it really affects the employees even more than the owners).
    Though it really doesn't bother me that the likes of Gates and Oprah would have to live with one less mil a year, but I really don't understand the "they should pay more simply because they can". They don't deserve the money they earned?
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    Re: Planned Parenthood and the Sentor from James town makes a good point

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Or, we can slap these welfare queens in the face with a big dose of reality and shock them into the real world, with the rest of us.

    As with planned parenthood, the difference can be made up through private donations. I'm sure all the bleeding hearts that demand more taxes will be the first ones to cut a check to these orgs.

    Instead of raising billions to get more Libbos elected, ya'll can raise billions to pay for the welfare class. You'll have lower taxes, so you'll be able to afford it, easier.
    Isn't your whole life funded by tax payers?
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    Re: Planned Parenthood and the Sentor from James town makes a good point

    If PP were to disappear tomorrow, federal monies would still fund abortions. Medicaid does it all the time it just isn't called "abortion".

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    Re: Planned Parenthood and the Sentor from James town makes a good point

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Some posts are ridiculous. 97% of Planned Parenthood services are education, birth control, diagnosis and treatment of STD's, medical examinations and medical referrals. Only 3% of their services include abortion, and (as mentioned in the OP's link) no federal money is used by PP for abortion services because the damned Hyde Amendment makes it illegal to do so.

    I get so sick of the lies being told every time the word "abortion" pops up in a thread. Grates on my last nerve.
    Alternative: Planned Parenthood drops abortion from their list of services and keeps government funding. After all, if its only 3% it can't be that fundamental to their total operations....

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    Re: Planned Parenthood and the Sentor from James town makes a good point

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Alternative: Planned Parenthood drops abortion from their list of services and keeps government funding. After all, if its only 3% it can't be that fundamental to their total operations....
    Or they simply keep everything the way that it was. It's bullcrap that they stop funding PP just because some people don't like the fact that part of thier operation is performing a few abortions. It is even more so when the fact of the matter is that none of the federal aid money that went to PP went towards ANY of the abortions. None. Notta. Zilch. Zero.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood and the Sentor from James town makes a good point

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Alternative: Planned Parenthood drops abortion from their list of services and keeps government funding. After all, if its only 3% it can't be that fundamental to their total operations....
    It's fundamental to their principle. Hillary Clinton has it right: Abortion should be legal, safe and rare. That it's 3% of their work means they are doing a good job of making it rarer.
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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