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Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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i take haymarket much more seriously than I do you TD. He's always trying to find some way to get an original answer out of you. It's much more interesting than your endless rehash of fox's position.
 
No, he's trying to get the Union position out of everyone.....


What if...? said:
i take haymarket much more seriously than I do you TD. He's always trying to find some way to get an original answer out of you. It's much more interesting than your endless rehash of fox's position.
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Yup, workng harder works GREAT for all those peasants in southeast asia, where the poor know their place.
 
What if...? said:
Yup, workng harder works GREAT for all those peasants in southeast asia, where the poor know their place.
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just curious-what sort of job or trade do you have
 
What if...? said:
i take haymarket much more seriously than I do you TD. He's always trying to find some way to get an original answer out of you. It's much more interesting than your endless rehash of fox's position.
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of course you do

he's a far left welfare socialist

so are you
 
Poly-skilled autodidact. Doing whatever pays the best at the time. Right now my wife is supporting me so that I can harass propagandists full time. But I am available if you need help. With just about anything. Anything honest and forthright anyway. What EXACTLY do YOU do all day.
 
Actually i'm a far right anarchist, but if you go far enough to the right you come up on the rich raping the poor, just like they do in every conservative paradise. And rape just pisses me off. So...
 
What if...? said:
Poly-skilled autodidact. Doing whatever pays the best at the time. Right now my wife is supporting me so that I can harass propagandists full time. But I am available if you need help. With just about anything. Anything honest and forthright anyway. What EXACTLY do YOU do all day.
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civil litigator-about a 95% winning record. I also own a major farming operation and am a general partner in an investment business.

I also train people how to shoot
 
What if...? said:
Actually i'm a far right anarchist, but if you go far enough to the right you come up on the rich raping the poor, just like they do in every conservative paradise. And rape just pisses me off. So...
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sure you are. that your wife supports you sounds proof enough of leftwing activity
 
Barbbtx said:
If they invest it to grow a business they hire more people.
Why do you hate rich people? Wouldn't you like to be wealthy yourself someday? Think of all the people you could help.
I wish I was rich so I could help more people.
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I do not hate rich people.

Also, sending $$$ to causes does not solve the problem, because it does not look at the root of the problem. For example, while giving $$$ to a homeless shelter is a great thing and I encourage people to do so, it does not solve the root cause of homelessness. Donating money addresses the symptoms but not the cause.
 
Wisconsin Firefighters Join Protest With Sleep-In

"When protests in Madison, Wisconsin broke out with Republican Governor Scott Walker's budget proposal, state firefighters immediately backed the public sector workers, who would be stripped of collective bargaining rights in the bill.

Never mind the firefighters, along with cops and state troopers, were exempt from the union busting legislation. They have been protesting since day one with their self described working "brothers and sisters" in the public sector.

Monday night, around sixty men and women marched from Madison's Fire Station #1 to the capitol with blankets, pillows and plenty of snacks to spend the night with fellow protesters on the hard marble floor of Wisconsin's capitol.

"We just couldn't stand by and let this happen to our brothers and sisters," Mahlon Mitchell, State President of the Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin (PFFW), said. "We are firefighters, we respond to emergencies, and we are responding to an emergency of the middle class."

Talya Minsberg: Wisconsin Firefighters Join Protest With Sleep-In
 
Police union official urges officers to sleep among protesters, keep Capitol open

"On Friday, the head of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association called on the governor to keep the Capitol open to overnight campers, and even urged members to join them.

"As has been reported in the media, the protesters are cleaning up after themselves and have not caused any problems," said WPPA Executive Director Jim Palmer, who urged the governor "not do anything to increase the risk to officers and the public."
Going one step further, Palmer suggested fellow officers come to the Capitol Friday night to sleep among the protesters."
Police union official urges officers to sleep among protesters, keep Capitol open
 
How does a lefty earn enough to support a household on one income? And yes I was a libertarian before it was co-opted by the current CINO nonsense. I still strongly support the second amendment, and actually believe people don't appreciate or grow from what is just given to them. I just don't like the obvious desire to create a plutocracy in this country. You practise civil law, yet deny that wealth utilizes a disproportionate percentage of the courts. You own a farm. Do you accept subsidies. You're a general partner in an investment firm, but cannot accept the concept of a relatively finite money supply, and steadfastly refuse to acknowledge any possibility of excessive personal ownership of said supply. B your preferred model, eventually there will be no more money available for YOU to own. Then a bigger, richer fish will come and take your money away. Because there can be only one richest man in the world. That IS the end result of capitalism as you see it.

Now instead of conversing, challenging anything i've said on any rational basis, you'll now just call me a silly liberal and feel superior. You can't see how annoying that is, can you?
 
liblady said:
it's not deception. why would you think he'll stop with cutting benefits? this year, maybe, but what about the future? again, it seems republicans are intent upon destroying our middle class.
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So you say your speculation is not deception?
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donc said:
This reply has what to do with FUNDING ?
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Everything since the unions can't force you to pay them which means less money for them to use against the conservative politicians
 
Catawba said:
Because of the National debt.
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Then start taxing all workers not just the top 53%

I just got my taxes done. i made just over $18,000 in 9 months and i get $5000 back. This shows you that people that can claim EIC get far more back than they pay in
 
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Catawba said:
That its all about busting the union here to become the first domino across the country, and that he considered bringing in hired thugs to cause disruption!
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No this is about stopping the Union abuse of power. We are talking about taxpayers money not the union's money
 
CriticalThought said:
So you think someone with a bachelors degree in the public sector should get paid the same as someone with just a high school diploma in the private sector?
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Show me the people in the private sector with only a high school diploma making $75,000 for 9 months of work
 
Catawba said:
Compare it any way you like. Most people in the private sector with 4 to 8 years of college make more. Show me statistics that say otherwise.
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Teachers know that before becoming teachers so you argument is flawed
 
Barbbtx said:
Really? I tried the number 50,000 times 2150 and my calculatar doesn't have enough room for all the zeros. So geez, I might agree that they make too much money. ;)
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Really? I am a Mathematics major. You realize that right (not to say I don't make mistakes since I am dyslexic as hell). But my financial calculator had room for it and I didn't even break out the TI-83 (can you believe those lucky bastards who get to use the TI-89s and ****?).

Anyway, if you take $10 for a cashier (which is being generous right?) you'll get an annual 40 hour week salary of: $20,800.

35,000,000/20800 = 1682. Now, I made those numbers up on the spot (not the CEOs numbers but the cashiers numbers).

Trust me, the CEO makes well over two thousands times the average Wal-Mart employee. Unfortunately, the average Wal-Mart employee has not received the education to realize how bad he/she has it.
 
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