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Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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A one party system is inevitable. The big question is who will it be.

Perhaps you would be happy with a one-party system. I would not be in favor of a one party system. It didn't work out too well for the Soviet Union, Iran, China, Egypt, Iraq, Nazi Germany, etc, etc, etc.
 
actually most legal scholars admit the New deal was a rejection of the original intent as well as the existing precedent

read the various commentaries on schechter poultry etc


LOL! Please cite for us the Supreme Court ruling where unions have been overturned on Constitutional grounds?
 
LOL! Please cite for us the Supreme Court ruling where unions have been overturned on Constitutional grounds?

I never said that sir strawman.

the new deal was far more than unions

it was destroying the tenth amendment, procedural due process and using the commerce clause as a carte blanche for government desires.

FDR opposed public sector unions
 
It is silly to point out that your views are irrelevant because YOU are impotent to do anything about them not being on the US Supreme Court?

okay.

And you are in the supreme court?
 
She is a nonmember, or did you miss that part?

She does NOT have to be a member. She still gets the negotiated salary that the union negotiated for all. She still gets the negotiated benefits the union negotiated for all. She still gets the negotiated working conditions the union negotiated for all.

She gets plenty for her dollar. Most agents get 10% - some more. She is getting a bargain and should be thankful for it.
 
Thats crap. They should support those that put forward an agenda. Not blindly support one party

Blindly is your word. I think a argument can be made that one party clearly does more than the other. You seem to be arguing, if we talk all you say into account, rich people supporting and contributing to a party is a divine right given by God. However, working folk doing so through a union is corruption. Right?
 
You claimed unions were not constitutional. I've demonstrated that they are by the rule of law.

This entire argument you are using you do realize is complete trash, I hope.

To claim supreme court rulings=constitutional is absolute and total nonsense.

Unless of course you think Citizens United's ruling was correct. :p
 
Yes it is. That money is paid to the unions to represent its members not to be a political arm of the democrat party
in my union, the UAW, member dues most certainly DO NOT GO TO SUPPORT POLITICAL CANDIDATES..the money used for that comes from separate VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTIONS . NO DUES ARE USED...
 
in my union, the UAW, member dues most certainly DO NOT GO TO SUPPORT POLITICAL CANDIDATES..the money used for that comes from separate VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTIONS . NO DUES ARE USED...


You and I both know this, ptif219 claiming that at one time that he was a shop steward is almost as ludicrous as his statements that he don’t know what his job was at the time he was steward.

Also note, that the union that he was shop steward at was…drum roll…the AFL/CIO.:lamo
 
You and I both know this, ptif219 claiming that at one time that he was a shop steward is almost as ludicrous as his statements that he don’t know what his job was at the time he was steward.

Also note, that the union that he was shop steward at was…drum roll…the AFL/CIO.:lamo
i just get so tired of seeing this trotted out...'oh my god dues are being used'...yeah, i had my doubts about the 'steward' claim as well, as he was not well informed as to how his union worked. I have served as vice chair, and chairperson on my shop's bargaining committee, as well as shift steward twice for my shift.
 
This entire argument you are using you do realize is complete trash, I hope.

To claim supreme court rulings=constitutional is absolute and total nonsense.

Unless of course you think Citizens United's ruling was correct. :p

Under the rule of law, the Supreme Court decides what is Constitutional if challenged. The right of Unions to exist has not been successfully challenged in over a 100 years they have been in existence. It is yet to be seen if the Citizens United ruling holds up to that test of time.
 
i just get so tired of seeing this trotted out...'oh my god dues are being used'...yeah, i had my doubts about the 'steward' claim as well, as he was not well informed as to how his union worked. I have served as vice chair, and chairperson on my shop's bargaining committee, as well as shift steward twice for my shift.

Ten four, been on several Negotiation teams for the IBT on National Freight contracts, in the seventies and early eighties, as well as other…shall we say duties.
 
Ten four, been on several Negotiation teams for the IBT on National Freight contracts, in the seventies and early eighties, as well as other…shall we say duties.
just thinking, boy, would it be nice, if some folks here had an actual clue as to what they were talking about.
 
just thinking, boy, would it be nice, if some folks here had an actual clue as to what they were talking about.

There’s a couple of more on this thread that have come close to the bull**** that pfffft has posted but have come up short. Still watching though.:mrgreen:
 
There’s a couple of more on this thread that have come close to the bull**** that pfffft has posted but have come up short. Still watching though.:mrgreen:

Great, sounds like unions then have their own printing presses to generate the millions of dollars they pump into elections every year to elect pro union candidates. If they don't have printing presses for money where does all that money come from if not dues?
 
Great, sounds like unions then have their own printing presses to generate the millions of dollars they pump into elections every year to elect pro union candidates. If they don't have printing presses for money where does all that money come from if not dues?

voluntary contributions to the political arm of the unions.
 
i know it, because i have made voluntary contributions

Of course you have and your union gives some of that to the national. Are you sure none of the money going to national isn't spent on campaigns?

Now with regard tot he thread topic, do you know the difference between a public union and a private sector union and who pays for the benefits in both?
 
Here ya go conservative,right in your neighborhood.Give till it hurts. :mrgreen:

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Of course you have and your union gives some of that to the national. Are you sure none of the money going to national isn't spent on campaigns?

Now with regard tot he thread topic, do you know the difference between a public union and a private sector union and who pays for the benefits in both?
i will say this SLOOOOOOWLY FOR YOU...no dues are used...any money spent on politics is collected by voluntary contribution....as for the rest of your post, read the thread.
 
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