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Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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You really need to prove that claim with actual information, verifiable evidence and authoritative data. Otherwise, its just you being afraid of one of your ideological enemies and rejecting the truth because you do not like the source. That says volumes about you but says not one relevant thing about the evidence you reject.

You source has no creibilty and does not prove the teacher wage false so you need to show proof.

Just more accusations from a Soros funded group that has no facts
 
You use a liberal Soros funded source that shows no proof just claims they are conservastive. Your source is showing they are just being political with no facts. How come they do not show what teachers make and show proof

If I had a dollar for every time over the last several days somebody on these 867 threads on Wisconsin published a link to the ACTUAL REAL SALARIES of Wisconsin teachers, I could fill my gas tank and save $50 bucks.

but just for you

http://www.teacher-world.com/teacher-salary/wisconsin.html


http://teacherportal.com/salary/Wisconsin-teacher-salary
 
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http://www.nilrr.org/files/Horowitz.pdf

Apparently the current WH administration is refusing to release the OLMS union corruption reports from 2010, and the prior reports which were available are no longer available on the OLMS website.

Labor department fails to release union corruption tracking report | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment

That's not to say every local or all unions are corrupt - they're not. But Unions have had a long and romantic affair with the mob, politics, and corruption which even you must admit. Are some unions corrupt today? Sure, but I wish the OLMS would release the report - which politically may not be good for President Obama's reelection as he's heavily backed by unions.
 
http://www.nilrr.org/files/Horowitz.pdf

Apparently the current WH administration is refusing to release the OLMS union corruption reports from 2010, and the prior reports which were available are no longer available on the OLMS website.

Labor department fails to release union corruption tracking report | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment

That's not to say every local or all unions are corrupt - they're not. But Unions have had a long and romantic affair with the mob, politics, and corruption which even you must admit. Are some unions corrupt today? Sure, but I wish the OLMS would release the report - which politically may not be good for President Obama's reelection as he's heavily backed by unions.

Private businesses have engaged in corruption and company officials have been convicted.
Politicians of every stripe - both liberal and conservative - both Democratic and Republican - have been convicted of corruption.
Religious officials have engaged in corruption and have been convicted.

What exactly are you trying to prove here?
 
not one of the "feature articles" proves unions are corrupt. if a person working for home depot embezzles cash, is home depot corrupt? lol! if a business manager for say, the RNC, takes people to strip clubs on his business card, are all republicans corrupt? try again.

So taking union dues and using them to support a political party is not corruption/ That is not what people pay dues for.

You deny the corruption?

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If I had a dollar for every time over the last several days somebody on these 867 threads on Wisconsin published a link to the ACTUAL REAL SALARIES of Wisconsin teachers, I could fill my gas tank and save $50 bucks.

but just for you

Wisconsin Teaching Salaries | How Much Do Wisconsin Teachers Make?


Wisconsin Teacher Salary | Teaching Salaries in WI: $46,390

From your link

* Green Bay: $55,110
* Kenosha: $68,400
* Madison: $50,770
* Milwaukee: $54,620
* Racine: $49,710

All above $47,000

From your other link

Average Salary: $46,390

Showing the $47,000 is pretty accurate and you Soros funded group is lying
 

If a party speaks to union issues, a union supporting that party would not be corruption. Anyone breaking the law would be a problem, but mere support is not illegal or contrary to helping the people they represent. It amazes me how often your side supports rich folks lobbying and handing out cash to support politicians, but seem to want to demonize workign folk for doing the same thing. Unions wanting to keep member benefits is evil, but rich folks lobbying not to have taxes increased is just? I wish I saw some consistency here.
 
There is no information in that link of any kind which shows any sort of corruption in Wisconsin public employee unions. It is irrelevant and useless.

I said unions were corrupt I did not say a specific union. When you have nothing you show it
 
I said unions were corrupt I did not say a specific union. When you have nothing you show it

That is ridiculous. All this anger is directed at Wisconsin and it is the public employee unions in Wisconsin who are the topic.

Do you condemn all Republicans because some have been convicted of corruption?
Do you condemn all religious clerics because some have been convicted of corruption?
Do you condemn all business exectuives because some have been convicted of corruption?

This is thread a discussion about the events and the unions in Wisconsin that Walker is trying to break. Please post accordingly and stay on topic.
 
From your link

* Green Bay: $55,110
* Kenosha: $68,400
* Madison: $50,770
* Milwaukee: $54,620
* Racine: $49,710

All above $47,000

From your other link

Average Salary: $46,390

Showing the $47,000 is pretty accurate and you Soros funded group is lying

I have no idea what you are talking about of what your point is.
 
Links that supposedly show "average salaries" are invariably put out by biased sources. Here's real true data by teacher name. Of course, by design, it is very difficult to navigate....name-by-name. I checked six "Smith" last names:

The first number is their salaries. The second number is the cost of fringes. All for just plain old teachers:

Laura $62,056 + $33,870
Andrew $76,365 + $20,907
Jeni $45,747 + $18,237
Shannon $60,868 + $31,419
Renee $26,628 + $17,519 for 25% employment multiplied times the 4 schools she works at: $106,512 + $70,076
Lola $57,567 + $30,054

These salaries are golden. And each and every one of them paid with property taxes that are regressive. It's time teachers joined the real world. The Governor gave notice their contract will no longer be honored as of March 13th. Good for him. They have tried to negotiate higher contributions to their fabulous fringes -- and only now has the union said, "Okay, we'll do that." Can they be trusted? Of course not.

I don't think their right to bargain should be taken away, though. Wisconsin should just make sure that those who negotiate these contracts have the stones to hold tight. That hasn't been the case in the past.
 
That is ridiculous. All this anger is directed at Wisconsin and it is the public employee unions in Wisconsin who are the topic.

Do you condemn all Republicans because some have been convicted of corruption?
Do you condemn all religious clerics because some have been convicted of corruption?
Do you condemn all business exectuives because some have been convicted of corruption?

This is thread a discussion about the events and the unions in Wisconsin that Walker is trying to break. Please post accordingly and stay on topic.

I see you have no defense so you will not admit corruption. Taking members money and using it for politics is corruption. members do not give dues to support democrats
 
I see you have no defense so you will not admit corruption. Taking members money and using it for politics is corruption. members do not give dues to support democrats

I show your sources wrong you have nothing and the $47,000 is accurate
 
I see you have no defense so you will not admit corruption. Taking members money and using it for politics is corruption. members do not give dues to support democrats

Not only do you overgeneralize, not saying a specific union broke a specific law, but you state something clearly false. Supporting a candidate or a party is not a sign of corruption.
 
Links that supposedly show "average salaries" are invariably put out by biased sources. Here's real true data by teacher name. Of course, by design, it is very difficult to navigate....name-by-name. I checked six "Smith" last names:

The first number is their salaries. The second number is the cost of fringes. All for just plain old teachers:

Laura $62,056 + $33,870
Andrew $76,365 + $20,907
Jeni $45,747 + $18,237
Shannon $60,868 + $31,419
Renee $26,628 + $17,519 for 25% employment multiplied times the 4 schools she works at: $106,512 + $70,076
Lola $57,567 + $30,054

These salaries are golden. And each and every one of them paid with property taxes that are regressive. It's time teachers joined the real world. The Governor gave notice their contract will no longer be honored as of March 13th. Good for him. They have tried to negotiate higher contributions to their fabulous fringes -- and only now has the union said, "Okay, we'll do that." Can they be trusted? Of course not.

I don't think their right to bargain should be taken away, though. Wisconsin should just make sure that those who negotiate these contracts have the stones to hold tight. That hasn't been the case in the past.

All these salaries were negotiated between the legal representatives of the people and the legal representatives of the teachers.

You picking out a very very very small number of teachers and attempting to pretend that they are somehow more useful that averages of thousands of teachers in information suppled by the districts is really a stretch and I think its not at all useful or even informative.
 
I see you have no defense so you will not admit corruption. Taking members money and using it for politics is corruption. members do not give dues to support democrats

No defense of what exactly??????? Can you please be specific and exact in your charges? What are you accusing and who are you accusing?

Your last few posts jump from A to Z without any letters in between and do not make much - if any sense.
 
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it's corrupt for unions to support politicians? ok.....then it must be corrupt for corporations to support pols as well. sigh.
 
All these salaries were negotiated between the legal representatives of the people and the legal representatives of the teachers.

You picking out a very very very small number of teachers and attempting to pretend that they are somehow more useful that averages of thousands of teachers in information suppled by the districts is really a stretch and I think its not at all useful or even informative.

Any numbers put out by the school districts are skewed and cannot be relied on. Individual salaries tell the truth.
 
Not only do you overgeneralize, not saying a specific union broke a specific law, but you state something clearly false. Supporting a candidate or a party is not a sign of corruption.

Yes it is. That money is paid to the unions to represent its members not to be a political arm of the democrat party
 
All these salaries were negotiated between the legal representatives of the people and the legal representatives of the teachers.

You picking out a very very very small number of teachers and attempting to pretend that they are somehow more useful that averages of thousands of teachers in information suppled by the districts is really a stretch and I think its not at all useful or even informative.

It is time to stop the unions inflated wages negotiations and cadilac pension and insurance funds. The state and taxpayers can not afford it. Why do you think unions should have power over taxpayers?
 
No defense of what exactly??????? Can you please be specific and exact in your charges? What are you accusing and who are you accusing?

Your last few posts jump from A to Z without any letters in between and do not make much - if any sense.

I showed your sources wrong and your own links verified the $47,000 figure
 
it's corrupt for unions to support politicians? ok.....then it must be corrupt for corporations to support pols as well. sigh.

The difference is union money is paid by members to represent the members. What a company does with its profits is their business
 
Yes it is. That money is paid to the unions to represent its members not to be a political arm of the democrat party

No, because represnting its members may well legitimately include supporting a party that will support them as well. It is no different than business and wealthy putting their money into support for a candidate or party. No different at all.
 
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