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Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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been there, done that...the bill strips them of the right to bargain benefits, it forces the unions to have a 'vote' every year to stay certified, it makes paying dues or joining the union an 'option' ...perhaps YOU SHOULD READ THE BILL.


Right but not wages. Why should the unions be given the right to take taxpayer money for benefits? Maybe you should learn the difference between public and private sector unions. Doubt it will make a lot of difference though since you don't live in Wisconsin and don't have to pay for those benefits. Again you speak about something that doesn't concern you and you know so little about.
 
Right but not wages. Why should the unions be given the right to take taxpayer money for benefits? Maybe you should learn the difference between public and private sector unions. Doubt it will make a lot of difference though since you don't live in Wisconsin and don't have to pay for those benefits. Again you speak about something that doesn't concern you and you know so little about.
:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo oh my god!! this coming from you??:lamo
 
Right but not wages. Why should the unions be given the right to take taxpayer money for benefits? Maybe you should learn the difference between public and private sector unions. Doubt it will make a lot of difference though since you don't live in Wisconsin and don't have to pay for those benefits. Again you speak about something that doesn't concern you and you know so little about.

Why doesn't the same standards apply to the polices, fire and prison unions??? Could it be possible because they supported Walker?
 
Why doesn't the same standards apply to the polices, fire and prison unions??? Could it be possible because they supported Walker?

Or it could have something to do with public safety. What is the difference between the union contracts? I don't like public unions at all as they are funded by the taxpayers not the private sector customers.
 
Why doesn't the same standards apply to the polices, fire and prison unions??? Could it be possible because they supported Walker?

I understand that many of the state unions you mentioned above did NOT support Walker. But why srart allowing the facts to get in the way of a good narrative/ talking point.
 
been there, done that...the bill strips them of the right to bargain benefits, it forces the unions to have a 'vote' every year to stay certified, it makes paying dues or joining the union an 'option' ...perhaps YOU SHOULD READ THE BILL.

You don't think workers should have the choice to join the union or pay dues? Weird......
 
Here is the official report from the State of Wisconsin Fiscal Bureau. Read it and you can see how the new Governor helped manufacture this so called crisis just to be able to attempt to do what he is now doing.

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Misc/2011_01_31Vos&Darling.pdf


2010-11
Revenues

Opening Balance, July 1 $25,718,100
Taxes 12,691,400,000
Departmental Revenues
Tribal Gaming 22,330,300
Other 833,733,300
Total Available $13,573,181,700

Appropriations

Gross Appropriations $14,109,283,800
Compensation Reserves 95,962,700
Biennial Appropriation Adjustment -242,677,200
Sum Sufficient Reestimates -121,637,800
Less Lapses -389,112,600
Net Appropriations $13,451,818,900

Balances

Gross Balance $121,362,800
Less Required Statutory Balance -65,000,000
Net Balance, June 30 $56,362,800

Here is what the people need to know and it is the taxpayers that fund the public unions

THE TRUTH

WISCONSIN TEACHERS (average) THE REST OF US

Average Salary $51,100 $50,400
Benefits $38,400 $10,600

Total $89,500 $61,000

On the job 9 months a year Work year round
Retirement at 50-55 y.o w/ 70% of pay Retire at 65 (maybe) with whatever the stock market leaves you with
Full health benefits for life Good luck

CONTRIBUTION

Pension 0.2% taxpayers pay the rest Good luck and 5-20%
Health 4-6% taxpayers pay the rest Good luck and as much as 50%
 
Here is what the people need to know and it is the taxpayers that fund the public unions

THE TRUTH

WISCONSIN TEACHERS (average) THE REST OF US

Average Salary $51,100 $50,400
Benefits $38,400 $10,600

Total $89,500 $61,000

On the job 9 months a year Work year round
Retirement at 50-55 y.o w/ 70% of pay Retire at 65 (maybe) with whatever the stock market leaves you with
Full health benefits for life Good luck

CONTRIBUTION

Pension 0.2% taxpayers pay the rest Good luck and 5-20%
Health 4-6% taxpayers pay the rest Good luck and as much as 50%

Now please go back and compare comparable educational levels and skill levels. Or do you prefer comparing apples to cinder blocks and then complaining that your pie tastes like concrete?
 
LOL, from a minority position? Unions make up 11% of the work force so unless 11% is the majority, you are off base again as usual. take your argument to the taxpayers and see if they buy the collective bargaining agreement for public employees?

You really need to pay more attention to what you read. Again, just for you because you are special

The GOP is facing demographics that spell DOOM for a political party of all white people in the next few decades. They must find a strategy that permits them to rule from a minority position in which they disenfranchise those who would vote against them. This is part of it.

Now read it a few times just so you get the point.
 
Now please go back and compare comparable educational levels and skill levels. Or do you prefer comparing apples to cinder blocks and then complaining that your pie tastes like concrete?

Explain to me why this is an issue for you? You posted numbers but ignored the content of the article that you posted showing the state in dire straits. Why do public employees make more than the private sector? this is an issue for the citizens of Wisconsin. If they want to pay those outrageous benefits, then that is their choice. the protests are typical union bully tactics that apparently you condone.
 
You really need to pay more attention to what you read. Again, just for you because you are special



Now read it a few times just so you get the point.

Keep believing this is the political party of all white people. Good people of all races see what is happening in Wisconsin as an example of the labor movement destroying the economy of the state. Fair minded people aren't in today's Democrat Party and means members of all races.
 
Unions are dinosaurs in desperate need of a tarpit.
 
It's actually more than that, it's about stripping the Democratic Party of a major support group. This is just the beginning. I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Gov. Walker go major from the Koch Bros. The Republicans are trying to get one party rule..

That is exactly the big issue. Thank you for making it again here. The unions are the only big money supporter of the Democrats. If they can be busted that leaves one party with all the big money donors.

Everyone good with one party running the government?
 
That is exactly the big issue. Thank you for making it again here. The unions are the only big money supporter of the Democrats. If they can be busted that leaves one party with all the big money donors.

Everyone good with one party running the government?

If the reaction here on this site is any indication, as long as that single party is a conservative one, lots of people here would be just ducky with it.
 
Keep believing this is the political party of all white people. Good people of all races see what is happening in Wisconsin as an example of the labor movement destroying the economy of the state. Fair minded people aren't in today's Democrat Party and means members of all races.

Don't let the facts get in your way. From Pew Research on the last presidential election

Nearly all (95%) black voters cast their ballot for Democrat Barack Obama. Among Latino voters, 67% voted for Obama while 31% voted for Republican John McCain. Among Asian voters, 62% supported Obama and 35% voted for McCain. In contrast, white voters supported McCain (55%) over Obama (43%).

The modern GOP is a white persons game. And if you have not read the latest demographic projections for the near future, that is a vanishing breed that could be a minority in less than forty years.
 
If the reaction here on this site is any indication, as long as that single party is a conservative one, lots of people here would be just ducky with it.

It's the same no matter what side of the fence one finds oneself. The Dems were right as rain as long as they had all the Congress and the WH. It is sort of like free speech. Everyone is in favor of free speech as long it is the speech they want to hear.
 
Don't let the facts get in your way. From Pew Research on the last presidential election



The modern GOP is a white persons game. And if you have not read the latest demographic projections for the near future, that is a vanishing breed that could be a minority in less than forty years.

The tide is changing as more and more blacks understand how the Democrat Party has kept them dependent. keep believing the leftwing and you too will become dependent. Guess Allen West is what, an "Uncle Tom?"

Disgusted Allen West to Dems: Grow Up! - Rep. Allen West - Fox Nation
 
If the reaction here on this site is any indication, as long as that single party is a conservative one, lots of people here would be just ducky with it.


Is that right conservatives? Would you be happy with one party rule?
 
Is that right conservatives? Would you be happy with one party rule?

We had a one party rule the past two years and look what it got us, 15 million unemployed, emboldened unions out bashing heads, 3.5 trillion added to the debt. If that is today's Democrat Party, a single party under Conservative control would be a welcome change.
 
We had a one party rule the past two years and look what it got us, 15 million unemployed, emboldened unions out bashing heads, 3.5 trillion added to the debt. If that is today's Democrat Party, a single party under Conservative control would be a welcome change.

What about single party rule under an alternative party?
 
We had a one party rule the past two years and look what it got us

I'm not talking about 2 or 4 years I am talking about from now on. Without the unions, the only big money backer the Democrats have, only Republican candidates will have the money to win elections. So, I repeat my question.

Would a one party rule in this country make you happy?
 
What about single party rule under an alternative party?

No alternative party is going to start at the national level, it has to begin at the grass roots and grow from there. The two major political parties are too entrenched.
 
I'm not talking about 2 or 4 years I am talking about from now on. Without the unions, the only big money backer the Democrats have, only Republican candidates will have the money to win elections. So, I repeat my question.

Would a one party rule in this country make you happy?

If the Democrat Party that I belonged to for almost 25 years continues to be hijacked, yep, I would support the one party rule by the Republicans. That obviously is sad but the Democrats today are the party of special interests and not the majority in this country. Their support for wealth redistribution has turned off a lot of people and it has to stop. Either somone takes over the Democrat Party and returns it to its roots or it dies forever in my eyes
 
Don't let the facts get in your way. From Pew Research on the last presidential election



The modern GOP is a white persons game. And if you have not read the latest demographic projections for the near future, that is a vanishing breed that could be a minority in less than forty years.

This is "your" President, is this something that promotes non partisanship and civility? Is this really what you want?

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