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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Unions have outlived their use. They have priced American workers out of the martkets. They protect and represent incompetent people. I agree with you completely...they ARE evil and need to be destroyed. Best way to do that is to let their contracts expire, refuse to rehire any of them, and hire new employees eager to actually be productive at a fair wage.
    So you say. I find it hard to believe that a group of people with a common interest of promoting safer work conditions, higher wages, etc is evil. But then again, anything that interferes with the long arm of big business must be evil.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Perhaps you forgot but democrats pay taxes too!
    You see, these teachers are getting paid like superstars, and well... I don't mind paying superstars well, but that should be the free market deciding... not the standard... and when our schools suck dick, and the states are in the red beyond their eyeballs... I think this is one of many prime places to cut.

    People should also be able to opt out of joining cartels... I mean unions.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    So you say. I find it hard to believe that a group of people with a common interest of promoting safer work conditions, higher wages, etc is evil. But then again, anything that interferes with the long arm of big business must be evil.
    I say its silly and not a little bit pathetic that you keep hearkening back to the 1920's as your justification for preserving unions. Should I point to the 70's and 80's and say that because of that era all unions are nothing more than fronts for organized crime activity?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Others subsidize your standard living every day o fthe week and have done so for all of your life and will continue to do so. Thats how it works in a society of 310 million people. We all are in this together. Unless you live isolated on your own island nation -the only cheap shot here is you taking continual ones at people you call 'liberals'. You expressed anger because you had to take hits and now you want others to get hit also. That is not a recipe for success - only FAILURE.

    your own words from your post #25

    This race to the bottom has to stop and stop today. Instead of wanting to punish your fellow workers because you were punished, you should be in solidarity with them working to stop the downward trends.
    In red: Dude... we do not live in a collective. Nowhere in The Constitution does it say anything about the common collective. It is about individuals, and individual rights... and Limited Government.

    Race to the bottom. We are there. Socialists have screwed this country good. Now it is time for adults like Walker to begin fixing the mess and shedding a little sobriety amongst the masses.



    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Zimmer

    please read this

    Wisconsin Teacher Salary | Teaching Salaries in WI: $46,390

    the radical right wing "source" you used for the teacher salary garbage has been discredited soundly.

    this is from OneWisconsinNow about the source for your 'information'



    No wonder some folks hate unions when they base it on right wing false information fueled by radical ideology.
    Try again with your voodoo.

    The average salary for an MPS teacher is $56,500. When fringe benefits are factored in, the annual compensation will be $100,005 in 2011.
    Somebody pays for those benefits... the taxpayer... they do not come out of thin air. That can be considered salary.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    My sense is that there is a definition of what sick means in their contract.
    Then it should be easy for you to find that definition since contracts with public employees like teachers are of public record.

    I taught for 33 years and can tell you that there was NO SUCH DEFINITION in my contract.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    In red: Dude... we do not live in a collective. Nowhere in The Constitution does it say anything about the common collective. It is about individuals, and individual rights... and Limited Government.
    It is called a SOCIETY that we live in. That is all of us together.

    Maybe the copy of the Constitution you are using is flawed and does not have the same material that mine does. The first three words of mine say WE THE PEOPLE. Not WE THE LONERS AND INDIVIDUALS.
    And right after that is a uniting of the people to form a more perfect UNION.

    You need a new copy of the Constitution my friend.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You see, these teachers are getting paid like superstars, and well... I don't mind paying superstars well, but that should be the free market deciding... not the standard... and when our schools suck dick, and the states are in the red beyond their eyeballs... I think this is one of many prime places to cut.

    People should also be able to opt out of joining cartels... I mean unions.

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    40K a year is 'superstar' pay?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    So you say. I find it hard to believe that a group of people with a common interest of promoting safer work conditions, higher wages, etc is evil. But then again, anything that interferes with the long arm of big business must be evil.
    Any group that makes 25% more money, on the average, than a privaye sector employee, then turns around and demands more taxes from thos under-employed/un-employed private sector, middle class workers, is evil.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    40K a year is 'superstar' pay?
    Depends on what you do for a living and where you live. My employees make 40-45 grand a year. None of them have a degree, only a couple of them have a high school diploma, or a GED. We live in Louisiana. So, yes, 40 g's is superstar pay for someone who didn't even finish high school. That's before Obama killed their jobs, though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Depends on what you do for a living and where you live. My employees make 40-45 grand a year. None of them have a degree, only a couple of them have a high school diploma, or a GED. We live in Louisiana. So, yes, 40 g's is superstar pay for someone who didn't even finish high school. That's before Obama killed their jobs, though.
    gonna have to be several tens of thousands more before i would consider something to be 'superstar' pay.

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