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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Are CEO salaries paid by tax payers?
    Yes--in many cases, by future taxpayers (i. e. deficit spending). . .

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    again, what does it matter? they perform a service, they are compensated for performing that service, hence, the term they 'EARN' the money they get...you are just pissed because they are unionized, that is what this is about, not about who pays them, at least quit being dishonest and admit this is your endgame.
    Donc answered the question, you aren't mature enough to admit you are wrong. Teachers are funded by the school board who gets their revenue from taxes collected from the people in their district thus teachers are funded by the taxpayers as are ALL public employees.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Yes--in many cases, by future taxpayers (i. e. deficit spending). . .

    Oil subsidies defended by GOP and industry
    Oil Subsidies allow oil companies to keep more of what they earn, it isn't a payback from the treasury.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The numbers are based on a standard 40 hour week. Teachers work 192 days a year, or 1,536 hours. Non-teachers work 260 days a year, or 2,080 hours.

    I used the same base salary for both, $43,000. for bachelors and $53,000. for masters degrees.
    That seems reasonable. I am not sure it is fair to say that teachers work 40 hours a week since most work 8am-3pm and have plenty of work to do out of class (but I am sure that over 40 hours a week is true for most jobs).

    The other question though is what is wrong with teachers earning a bit more than the average of degrees? Consider that most common degree Bachelors in Arts (for Business). Business degrees are a dime a dozen and are relatively easy to attain. Why shouldn't teachers be paid more than those people?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oil Subsidies allow oil companies to keep more of what they earn, it isn't a payback from the treasury.
    It is--as a result of those subsidies, other people's (or your kids') taxes will be increased to cover it.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Donc answered the question, you aren't mature enough to admit you are wrong. Teachers are funded by the school board who gets their revenue from taxes collected from the people in their district thus teachers are funded by the taxpayers as are ALL public employees.
    hmmm...mature enough to admit when wrong...wasnt it you in another thread, when shown repeatedly you were wrong, by, who was it...redress?....that wouldnt admit to be wrong? wasnt it you that had your own job data used against you?...you were wrong, when are you going to be 'mature ' enough to admit it?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That its all about busting the union here to become the first domino across the country, and that he considered bringing in hired thugs to cause disruption!
    Hired thugs huh? That sounds more like what a Union boss would do.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So let me see if I have this right, school teachers had no idea what they were getting into when they went into the field? Have you ever created a job in your life? How do you decide what to pay someone for their service? Where does personal responsibility like in your world?
    WTF are you talking about? Your post makes no sense. Are you hitting the sauce?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    It's simply more efficient to run a hierarchical business. If you want inefficient, your business will lose. It's that simple (in general)

    $1M can motivate a single, ambitious and capable individual to create real business growth and sustainability.
    Paying that money out to 1000 employees as a $1K bonus each would not create significant growth of that business or contribute anywhere near the stability of a good CEO at the helm.
    The business won't exist without the capable leader, but it will exist if they don't get the $1K bonus that year.

    Now, take it one step further, and you are actually in competition. If you were such a fool as to divvy the $1M up and not get a good CEO, guess what? The competitor down the road did get the good CEO. They now are putting you out of business. $1K isn't enough to lure away all his employees fast enough to help either. All those $1K bonuses will make a good start on the severance packages you now have to pay to all the employees at the firm you just sunk. Failure.

    That's why we don't need politicians and public employees trying to tell the business community how to run a business.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Thank you, finally an honest answer, and the answer to yours most of it comes from private sector employees that constitute most of the work force who get their money as pay for selling products or services to other members of the public. Maybe you ought to take a finance and economic course.
    Then using your logic, the private sector is indirectly filtering the money thru the taxing entities to the unions then?AND, if someone that happens to work for a.well, any of these.. buys a bag of pot then its indirectly being paid for by whom?


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