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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I did for him.



    Did you even read my post? The CEO makes a ratio of 2150:1. You are saying Wal-Mart cannot afford unions without raising prices?
    When you get out of school come back to me with the answer. You simply don't have a clue. Wal-Mart has made the choice and they are the largest retailer in the world employing hundreds of thousands of employees. That is a private sector business that can do what it wants. They chose not to allow unions, good for them. Based upon exchanges we have had I can see why you will probably need a union when you get out of school. I never even considered joining a company with a union and preferred to generate my own paycheck, benefits, and pay raises.

    I really don't care what a CEO makes, what any liberal here makes, or even what you are going to make. Life is about choices, choose wisely and unions won't even be an issue.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Let's see yours that they're not. As a Conservative poster on DP, I post link after link after LINK with my opinions. Those I disagree with seldom post any -- but they're great at askin' for them.

    I posted a link (I think it was actually to YOU) showing that private school teachers make less than public school teachers. I'll not be looking for it again. I'm sure you can find it yourself if you choose. But then you won't believe it when you see it anyway.
    Even in 2003, teachers would have been below the US average income for a person with a Bachelor's degree of more. The 2003 Census figure for that demographic was $72,376.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    seriously? are seriously saying, that these folks don't earn their pay? thank you for the best laugh i've had all day.
    I asked you a question, where does the money come from that those public workers are paid?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Their head is going to hurt with facts like that Catawba. This is suppose to be about "beliefs" - not hard and cold objective facts.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I asked you a question, where does the money come from that those public workers are paid?
    i don't care where it comes from, it could come from the man on the moon...they perform a service, and yes, they earn that money. just because you disagree, doesnt mean it isnt so.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Even in 2003, teachers would have been below the US average income for a person with a Bachelor's degree of more. The 2003 Census figure for that demographic was $72,376.
    Educational attainment in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    So let me see if I have this right, school teachers had no idea what they were getting into when they went into the field? Have you ever created a job in your life? How do you decide what to pay someone for their service? Where does personal responsibility like in your world?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    OK.

    Average salary in the U.S. for a college graduate: $43,000 and average for a masters is $53,000.

    Source

    I'd say that falls well within the range of teachers, EXCEPT, when you figure the average hourly rate.

    In that case:

    Bachelors Degree:
    Teachers- $28.00/hour
    Non-Teachers- $20.67/hour

    Masters Degree:
    Teachers- $34.50/hour
    Non-teachers- $25.48/hour

    These numbers don't include benefits.
    How many hours per week is that estimate? I would be very interested in seeing the math behind it.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i don't care where it comes from, it could from the man on the moon...they perform a service, and yes, they earn that money. just because you disagree, doesnt mean it isnt so.
    Nice answer but really a diversion, I know you can come up with the answer. Never said they didn't earn the money so I will ask you again, where does the money come from? Where does your paycheck come from? Does your company have a money printing press in the office? Show me that you have a clue

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Competition in the free market is new to you? I blame our education system.
    If Wal-Mart moved in to compete, you can move out to compete.
    You can also pick a market to compete in without Wal-Mart. Hell, you can use Wal-Mart in your supply chain.

    You don't really have a point in any of this.
    The US doesn't practice free-market economics. A free market would be the bane of the GOP since it would mean the end of publicly (or deficit) funded subsidies for their corporate buddies.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    How many hours per week is that estimate? I would be very interested in seeing the math behind it.
    How about looking it up yourself?

    Something this doesn't take into account is that the job of a public school teacher works around 180 days a year. Private sector? 220. Hmmmmm......
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