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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Teaching kids the same basic subjects over and over does not need:

    1. 4-8 years of higher education
    2. superior job security/stablity comapred to private sector
    3. superior pensions and benefits compared to private sector in $ terms
    4. more stable pensions/benefits compared to private sector
    5. constant raises over 30 years, that compound and determine the pension value

    You guys are nuts if you think you need a god damned graduate degree to teach public high school history. It's freaking insane.

    In the private sector, you don't do the same entry-level job for life and expect to get constant pay increases, benefits, etc. you either plateua, or you move UP the chain.
    In the private sector, you don't even have pension typically, and if you do, they are riskier and have to be calcuated as such, compared to public state and federally backed pensions (taxpayer backed!)
    In the private sector, you do not simply get a pay increase because you took more courses. It can actually be a detriment (overqualified)
    In the private sector, you are not paid simply for a degree. You can become a VP with a high school education, it's merit based, not a check box.

    Work max 10 years as a teacher, get a pension to carry forward, and move up the economic ladder to do something more challenging with your foundation of teaching skills. Milking it for 30 years is unecessary. We'd LIKe all those teachers in the private market if they are "talented" as they claim they are. Hiding out lecturing children all day is cheating everyone. Let the new teachers who still have passion come in and take over. I mean, we need the job openings right?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Why would private salaries drop if public ones do?
    seriously? private schools won't have to compete with public school salaries......

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    My favorite is their practice of taking out life insurance on employees and then collecting benefits when they die. How is that ethical? By the way:

    Walmart CEO Michael Duke's Pay: More in an Hour Than Workers Get All Year? - ABC News


    Seems like Walmart could use a union. By the way, that is a ratio of 2,150:1. Where would Walmart be without cashiers, janitors, and people to stock the shelves? This guy earns zero without those people, yet he makes over 2000 times their salary?

    Yeah, I think they could use a union.
    wally world is notorious for their anti-union stance, as well as their tactics to prevent unions from getting in, many, which include the termination of employees suspected of being pro union, are illegal, but wally world violates the law any way, as the fines are not much of a deterrent to a company as large as they are.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    This reply has what to do with FUNDING ?
    Where do public union workers get the money to pay their union dues?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    ah yes, the 'all knowing, all seeing, all powerful' conservative has made an appearance....subjects that someone knows nothing about... sounds about like any thread you post in, and i will leave it there .
    You made a statement about Wal-Mart pay, now back it up

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    wally world is notorious for their anti-union stance, as well as their tactics to prevent unions from getting in, many, which include the termination of employees suspected of being pro union, are illegal, but wally world violates the law any way, as the fines are not much of a deterrent to a company as large as they are.
    Bet you don't mind shopping at Wal-Mart and getting those great prices. Who do you think pays union salaries if not the prices for the products you purchase.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Where do public union workers get the money to pay their union dues?
    maybe they earn it?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    seriously? private schools won't have to compete with public school salaries......
    So you are of the mind that without unions, people just pay their employees the bare minimum that they can get away with. That's just sad.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    maybe they earn it?
    You think?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You think?
    doh!! i forgot, they are union, must literally be sitting on their collective asses, doing nothing, and someone just hands them a check...lazy bastards!

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