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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's not deception. why would you think he'll stop with cutting benefits? this year, maybe, but what about the future? again, it seems republicans are intent upon destroying our middle class.
    Oh, pulllleeeeze. Only 11.9 % of American workers are in a union. Anyone who thinks they need a union in order to stay in Middle Class America is pathetic.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why do you care what someone else pays in taxes?
    Because of the National debt.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It is a scam that means nothing and shows unions and democrats do not have a leg to stand on.

    What did Walker say that he has not said publicly?

    That its all about busting the union here to become the first domino across the country, and that he considered bringing in hired thugs to cause disruption!
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Could you support this with some evidence?

    Have they really been lower? Do you have some data to back that up?

    I'm sorry, but I'm not the type who listens to unsubstantiated opinion. Please provide some sources to your assertions aside from your anecdotal assumptions.
    So what gives when you look at public-school and private-school teachers? The National Center for Education Statistics puts it this way: Using 2007-2008 data (the latest available), the average "total school-year and summer earned income" for public school teachers was $53,230 . The equivalent for private-school teachers was $39,690.
    That's a whopping $13,540 differential on salary alone. And in virtually every subset (highest degree earned, years of experience, you name it), the public-school teachers do far better than the private-school ones.
    Public vs Private School Teachers: Who Gets More?

    Anecdotal evidence: two relatives who were forced to take jobs in Chicago Public School District (their very last choice) because neither could find a teaching job in suburban Chicago; another relative trying to find his first teaching job in suburban Chicago who's been trying for two years. A friend who's been substituting for four years while trying to get hired by the school distict.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Because of the National debt.
    So send all your money to the govt. since you believe keeping more of it contributes to the national debt. That might be one of the stupidest comments I have seen on line, keeping more of what you earn drives up the national debt? No wonder we are in a mess with comments like that

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    If you include the money the state pays for the pension fund and health insurance the salary would be much higher

    Liberals and union try to deceive us on this the truth is they are much better off than than the average person in Wisconsin and get 3 months a year vacation
    The $75,000 does include the pension and health insurance. Without that included the average salary is $50,000
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Why similar educated. Is that who is paying their wages. How about the average for the state they get paid from.
    So you think someone with a bachelors degree in the public sector should get paid the same as someone with just a high school diploma in the private sector?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    How about just the average wage for people in Wisconsin. Most people do not get free insurance and pension plan
    Compare it any way you like. Most people in the private sector with 4 to 8 years of college make more. Show me statistics that say otherwise.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Why similar educated. Is that who is paying their wages. How about the average for the state they get paid from.
    So you are suggesting there should be no pay differential for jobs that require a college education?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Compare it any way you like. Most people in the private sector with 4 to 8 years of college make more. Show me statistics that say otherwise.
    Still waiting for an answer, Explain how government-paid employees who produce no revenue and are paid solely through tax dollars should be allowed to unionize against taxpayers?

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