By the way, I was already out of the military when this happened. Your backassed insult failed miserably. When you have to resort to stupid **** like that, it is pretty much proof that you know you have failed and are looking for anything to save face.
Your list of what was being asked of state employees got my goat. It's being asked of everyone. No one is singling out the public sector. People who work for state governments and have defined benefit pension plans have a different world view because they live in a different world. Their pensions are far and away more generous than the private sector employees who have to pay for them.(BTW, let's not be patronizing here, okay? I may be a state employee, but I pay city, state and federal taxes just as everyone else. I pay my property taxes same as you. I shop at retail stores same as you. I live in much the same way as everybody else. So, let's not attempt to differentiate one world view from another simply because I work in state government. Contrary to popular belief, I live in the exact same world as you do. My association with public (state and federal government) and private sector employment may provide me with a better perspective on these such issues than you may otherwise believe. So, let's first seek to understand one another then be understood, before passing judgment shall we?)
Thank you, Quazi!
Amazing that this is still about you keeping more of what you earn and I am the only one defending it. Your lack of economic understanding is staggering. Obviously you don't understand that tax cuts mean more take home pay and less need for all that govt. help that you want to promote. I certainly hope that you are sending your tax cuts back since apparently the govt. needs the money more than you do.
For someone that claims to have served in the military you sure have a distorted view of the U.S. Economy and what drives it. Doubt seriously that you did indeed serve but that is irrelevant. Figure out the components of GDP and get back to me. Then you might be able to figure out how tax cuts and tax increases affect economic growth. The word incentive doesn't seem to exist in the liberal world.
If Wal-Mart moved in to compete, you can move out to compete.
You can also pick a market to compete in without Wal-Mart. Hell, you can use Wal-Mart in your supply chain.
You don't really have a point in any of this.
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If they are not in that market, they are NOT COMPETING WITH YOU.you are already stopped the moment your business starts to try to compete with theirs.
Hell, even tiny fish still routinely displace the giant global brands. How did Gates compete with IBM again? Papa Johns with PizzaHut/Dominos?
You have to find new reasoning to back up your beliefs, because these are obviously false.
“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
I like how you take my quotes of context and you have to find new reasoning that I am wrong because your old reasons are obviously false.
"And in the end, we were all just humans, drunk on the idea that love, only love, could heal our brokenness."
You see, this is EXACTLY what happened in my state three years ago, but very few people across the state knew anything about it until word leaked out the next time the legislature tried to vote themselves another pay raise. This time, people all across the state complained and not surprisingly, the vote failed. Now, while this wasn't a union issue, the larger point I'm trying to address is if left up to the legislators they won't have the interest of the state employee in mind; they'll have their own agenda. The ONLY way to make this process fair is to insist that pay raises or any other benefit afforded to state legislators is tied to state employees. In short, if they vote themselves a pay raise, ALL state employees should get one as well. Since WE ALL work for the People and our income is taxpayer funded. No free rides, but TOTAL fairness as well. Better yet, put the vote to the People. If they believe public servants are doing a good enough job to warrant a pay raise, their vote will determine such.
Again, I'd like to see some evidence of this, but even IF that's the case, such can be brought back into balance WITHOUT silencing the voices of the few advocates public servants have within their state governments. Using a state's financies woes as an excuse to disband unions for public employees is nothing more than a ploy. Attack the real problem with real solutions, not trumped up BS.Your list of what was being asked of state employees got my goat. It's being asked of everyone. No one is singling out the public sector. People who work for state governments and have defined benefit pension plans have a different world view because they live in a different world. Their pensions are far and away more generous than the private sector employees who have to pay for them.
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