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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why would anyone provide you with proof because you would ignore it anyway?

    So you have no proof either?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So you have no proof of your claim?
    I'm not to get sidetracked on this issue. If you don't think that tax cuts stimulate the economy, I don't care. Take it up with your Congressmen in Washington.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    From the same place teachers get their money, from us taxpayers (investors), they just make 800,000 times more.

    So you have no problem with hedge fund managers making millions, but you think teachers are overpaid for getting $75,000, which includes their benefits?
    So you have a problem with people investing their money into hedge funds? I have no problem at all with hedge fund managers making millions, why do you? Still waiting for you to tell me what you believe the fair share is that the rich should pay in taxes? All I see from liberals like you is class warfare and a total lack of understanding of how our economy works.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So you have no proof either?
    I gave you the site to verify economic growth but instead as with all liberals you want someone else to do the work for you. go to the site and learn a few things then you won't look so foolish.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'd like to compare health benefits packages with you or any employee within the private sector and see if this is really true. I doubt it, however. For example, the amount of my compensated care for hospital stays longer than 30-days has decreased over the years. My insurance policy no longer covers vision care directly; it's now an additional $24.95 per month for coverage that's not incorporated into my main healthcare provider coverage, yet my premium remained the same. I don't get overtime and my travel reinbursements (whenever I do travel which was seldom to begin with) has been drastically reduced. So, from someone who's seeing this cuts at the state level first hand knowing how much I get paid, I fail to see how my salary and benefits eclipse those of the private sector. Believe me when I say I'm living paycheck to paycheck just like very body else.


    Using your logic, I can tell you to stop your bitching concerning Pres. Obama. But...

    Fact is, yourself and just about every other Conservative out there hate Unions whether public or private. I'll give you that many unions have become more like lobbyist, but that doesn't mean that all unions are bad for business or the people they represent. Some have done good work to ensure fairness in pay, employment opportunities and health and safety standards for those they represent. If the issue is perceived "over-reach", might I suggest you and others who share your perspective address those issues accordingly with the unions and their counterparts. But attempting to silence them and/or destroy them while proclaiming to "get your financial house in order" just doesn't seem to be of the proper accord. Governors should be able to work on their budget problems while also pulling back some of the perceived "over-reach" they believe unions have without destroying them and, effectively, removing any voice state employees have. Doing so would, in effect, create state-sponsored dictatorships. That's wrong no matter how yourself and others try to defend it!!
    I assure you that Scott Walker will do what he was elected to do and if the unions don't change, thousands of public union employees will be fired and rightly so.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I gave you the site to verify economic growth but instead as with all liberals you want someone else to do the work for you. go to the site and learn a few things then you won't look so foolish.
    Did you give the standard government charts that show growth after tax cuts? While carefully not showing the growth after tax increases? Do you still play this silly game after having all your arguments shown to be false in this line?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm not to get sidetracked on this issue. If you don't think that tax cuts stimulate the economy, I don't care. Take it up with your Congressmen in Washington.]
    Certainly, and you should refrain from making claims you cannot prove.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I gave you the site to verify economic growth but instead as with all liberals you want someone else to do the work for you. go to the site and learn a few things then you won't look so foolish.

    You are the one that made a claim but no proof to back it up. I am not doing your homework for you. But don't bother yourself. We've already seen what ten years of tax cuts to the wealthy accomplish. The wealthy get more wealthy.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did you give the standard government charts that show growth after tax cuts? While carefully not showing the growth after tax increases? Do you still play this silly game after having all your arguments shown to be false in this line?
    Both are there for all to see that is what makes the numbers credible. The problem is liberals don't seem to know when rate cuts went into effect and tax increases were recinded. Interesting that people seem more concerned about tax revenue than they do about actual spending. Why do you care what someone else makes or pays in taxes? I am even fighting for you to keep more of what you earn. You have a problem with that?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So you have no proof of your claim?

    BUT,but…professor beckerwood taught us that in his last class?
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