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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    I have a question, where do the millions of dollars come from that hedge fund managers make each year?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Wisconsin teacher salary statistics:

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    Average Teacher Salary Rank: 20th
    Starting Teacher Salary Rank: 49th
    Salary raise last year: 4.7%
    Salary raise over 10 years: 21.5%

    How do salaries grow in Wisconsin?
    Starting Salary: $25,222
    Average Salary: $46,390

    Total Expenditures: $8,654,346,758
    Teacher Expenditures: $2,638,094,048
    Percent Spent on Teachers: 30%"
    Wisconsin Teacher Salary | Teaching Salaries in WI: $46,390


    "Public school teachers in Wisconsin earned a combined $75,587 in total average compensation wages and benefits in 2010, according to figures from the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction"

    Wisconsin Teachers Earned Average $75,587 in Total Compensation in 2010 | CNSnews.com

    Why again is this extravagant for a professional with 4 - 8 years of college doing one of the most important jobs in the country?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Wisconsin teacher salary statistics:

    Rankings
    Average Teacher Salary Rank: 20th
    Starting Teacher Salary Rank: 49th
    Salary raise last year: 4.7%
    Salary raise over 10 years: 21.5%

    How do salaries grow in Wisconsin?
    Starting Salary: $25,222
    Average Salary: $46,390

    Total Expenditures: $8,654,346,758
    Teacher Expenditures: $2,638,094,048
    Percent Spent on Teachers: 30%"
    Wisconsin Teacher Salary | Teaching Salaries in WI: $46,390


    "Public school teachers in Wisconsin earned a combined $75,587 in total average compensation wages and benefits in 2010, according to figures from the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction"

    Wisconsin Teachers Earned Average $75,587 in Total Compensation in 2010 | CNSnews.com

    Why again is this extravagant for a professional with 4 - 8 years of college doing one of the most important jobs in the country?
    Because taxpayers can't afford to pay them an average of $75,000 a year. Because their benefits are totally out of line. Look at the numbers -- if those are even right -- their benefits are damn near as much as their salaries, for heaven's sake. And fighting for Viagra coverage? Really. Give me a break.

    Oh, and they got a 4.7% increase last year....in one of the toughest economic climates our country has ever faced. No pity party here...
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Please click here to learn about the situation in Wisconsin, what is really going on. Like, for example, when Walker came into office, there was a budget surplus of $120 million.

    Note: In the article, highlighted text= link
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Please click here to learn about the situation in Wisconsin, what is really going on. Like, for example, when Walker came into office, there was a budget surplus of $120 million.

    Note: In the article, highlighted text= link
    Governor Walker wants any wage increase over CPI to require a taxpayer vote. What's wrong with that? Well....that means the Dems won't have the same clout with the unions when they can't give away the store. Your link says that Wisconsin teachers haven't had an increase in 2 years. Catawba's link just above here states they received a 4.5% raise last year. Both are union friendly...who's right?

    As to the surplus being turned into a deficit....I say
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This is bull****, these people have earned the money use to pay their union dues. It doesn't matter where the money came from, when they earn it, they earned it.
    Earned their money from whom? Where do the Department's get the money to pay these people? No one said they didn't earn the money although some would disagree based upon results. The fact remains the taxpayers pay these employees as I stated.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I have a question, where do the millions of dollars come from that hedge fund managers make each year?
    From private investors

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD
    As to the surplus being turned into a deficit....I say
    Wait a minute...how can that be spin? It seems pretty cut and dried to me.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    Wait a minute...how can that be spin? It seems pretty cut and dried to me.
    From elsewhere on Mr. Invisible's link:

    Correction: It's a Ginned-Up "Crisis," but Scott Walker Isn't Entirely to Blame for Wisconsin's Budget Gap

    It's been widely reported that Scott Walker inherited a $120 million budget surplus, and then promptly created a budget deficit in order to break the backs of Wisconsin's public employees' unions. On Friday, I quoted Ezra Klein of the Washington Post explaining that Walker had " signed two business tax breaks and a conservative health-care policy experiment that lowers overall tax revenues (among other things). The new legislation was not offset, and it turned a surplus into a deficit."

    Politifact did an analysis of this issue which shows that Walker in fact inherited a manageable, long-term budget gap and then spun it as an imminent crisis that must be addressed this year.

    The reports stem from a a Jan. 31, 2011 memo prepared by Robert Lang, the director of the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau, that was picked up by the Associated Press and a number of other outlets. It does state that Wisconsin was on course for a surplus this year, which the media reported that in good faith. The issue is what Politifact refers to as the memo's "fine print."

    [It] outlines $258 million in unpaid bills or expected shortfalls in programs such as Medicaid services for the needy ($174 million alone), the public defender’s office and corrections. Additionally, the state owes Minnesota $58.7 million under a discontinued tax reciprocity deal.

    The result, by our math and Lang’s, is the $137 million shortfall.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    From elsewhere on Mr. Invisible's link:

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    So in reality, they already had a deficit then.

    Edit: And these tax cuts exacerbated the deficit.
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