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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    your silly rants about Cosco ignore many things
    one of which is NOT your confusion with the retail shopping experience and the relationship of a citizen to their government. That is not ignored at all. You and your Constant Costco Confusion make that unavoidable.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    one of which is NOT your confusion with the retail shopping experience and the relationship of a citizen to their government. That is not ignored at all. You and your Constant Costco Confusion make that unavoidable.
    you think anyone who doesn't like the current system is "unable to comprehend"

    I want the slackers to pay for what they use so they understand the costs. and if they cannot afford it, they should do what most of us responsible citizens do -we don't demand others pay for stuff we ourselves cannot afford



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Exactly what I thought, you don't know the difference between a public union and a private sector union. Who do you think pays for the unions in Wisconsin? Where do the people working for those unions get their money?

    Now wonder your so screwed up, you don,t know that union members fund their unions out of the monthly dues that is collected.




    My theory? LOL, public unions are funded by the taxpayers and private sector unions are funded by the companies.

    Strange theory there.


    You don't seem to understand the concept.
    Yep,I just blundered around all these years in the dark. Enlighten me on the procedure that one would go thru to get a company to fund a union, are a Governor for that matter.

    By the way, what local union do you belong to; are did belong to prior to your retirement? Musta been pretty high on the union totem pole to get all of the people to fund unions that they negociate contracts with. Seems to me that would bring a pack of NLRB shysters post-haste.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    donc;1059305666]Now wonder your so screwed up, you don,t know that union members fund their unions out of the monthly dues that is collected.
    Please tell me this is an act and you really aren't this dumb? Where do the workers get the money to pay their union dues which fund the unions?

    Strange theory there.

    I know, the truth hurts. Taxpayers fund the public union employees



    By the way, what local union do you belong to; are did belong to prior to your retirement? Musta been pretty high on the union totem pole to get all of the people to fund unions that they negociate contracts with. Seems to me that would bring a pack of NLRB shysters post-haste.

    I never was stupid enough to pay union dues and did quite well for myself. I watched unions destroy a lot of businesses and individuals along with driving up costs for consumers. Never had any use for unions especially public unions. Private unions are a different story, don't like them but they don't impact me at all. They affect the company that pays the employees that belong to those unions.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Now wonder your so screwed up, you don,t know that union members fund their unions out of the monthly dues that is collected.







    Strange theory there.




    Yep,I just blundered around all these years in the dark. Enlighten me on the procedure that one would go thru to get a company to fund a union, are a Governor for that matter.

    By the way, what local union do you belong to; are did belong to prior to your retirement? Musta been pretty high on the union totem pole to get all of the people to fund unions that they negociate contracts with. Seems to me that would bring a pack of NLRB shysters post-haste.
    why did the Clinton administration tell the DOL not to enforce the Beck decision

    under both Bush's if a worker believed his rights-as established in the Beck decision-he could go the Dept of labor and if there was merit-an investigation would be conducted and agency lawyers would prosecute the case for the aggrieved. under Clinton no such help was forthcoming



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Please tell me this is an act and you really aren't this dumb? Where do the workers get the money to pay their union dues which fund the unions?




    I know, the truth hurts. Taxpayers fund the public union employees






    I never was stupid enough to pay union dues and did quite well for myself. I watched unions destroy a lot of businesses and individuals along with driving up costs for consumers. Never had any use for unions especially public unions. Private unions are a different story, don't like them but they don't impact me at all. They affect the company that pays the employees that belong to those unions.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    To clean up the mess from the last decade. Obama has proposed to cut spending by $100 billion a year and raise revenues. That's what is needed to reduce our debt. Who is the last GOP president to do that?

    I have no interest in tax increases, all I am saying is we should stop the tax breaks for the most wealthy so they once again pay their fair share, that together with spending cuts will enable us to finally reduce our debt.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    "Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has been punk'd, his office confirmed Wednesday. The Republican governor who is pushing legislation that would end collective bargaining for public employees was at the wrong end of a prank telephone call with a person he believed was David Koch, a conservative billionaire businessman.

    In reality, the caller was Ian Murphy, a blogger from Buffalo, N.Y.

    Koch and his brother, Charles, own Koch Industries, the largest privately owned company in America and one with significant operations in Wisconsin. Its political-action committee gave $43,000 to Walker's campaign, and David Koch gave $1 million to the Republican Governors Association, which funded ads attacking Walker's opponent in last year's election.

    The Kochs also give millions to support Americans For Prosperity, a conservative business group that launched a $320,000 television ad campaign in favor of Walker's legislation Wednesday.

    Posing as David Koch, Murphy makes inflammatory statements on unions and Democrats. Walker says Wisconsin is at the vanguard of a set of states in which conservative governors are battling with workers over union rights. Walker agrees with the impersonator that Wisconsin is the "first domino."

    "This is our moment," he says on the recording.

    Walker also explains potential tactics for breaking the deadlock, including trying to lure Democratic senators who fled the state back to the Capitol to negotiate and then pushing the bill through while Republicans have the quorum needed to move the measure.

    "If you had heard that I was going to talk to them, that would be the only reason why," Walker says on the recording.

    The governor also said he planned to announce Thursday that state workers would start receiving notices that they're at risk for layoff. Walker says 5,000 to 6,000 such notices could be sent.

    At the end of the call, the prankster says: "I'll tell you what, Scott, once you crush these bastards, I'll fly you out to Cali and really show you a good time."

    "All right, that would be outstanding," Walker replies, adding the standoff is "all about getting our freedoms back."

    Democrats seized on the recorded comments as evidence that Walker plans to go beyond budget cuts to crushing unions."
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Please tell me this is an act and you really aren't this dumb? Where do the workers get the money to pay their union dues which fund the unions?




    I know, the truth hurts. Taxpayers fund the public union employees
    This is bull****, these people have earned the money use to pay their union dues. It doesn't matter where the money came from, when they earn it, they earned it.


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