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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I earned 5 bucks. You tell me to give it to you. I say no.
    Do you have 5 bucks less than before? Of course not.

    It doesn't matter if you are a thousand in debt, I didn't add to it by keeping my own money.
    You have $3,000 in bills due this month and you make $3,500. You decide that taking a pay cut is better for the company so you now earn $3,000 and have no money for food. You can cut, and maybe you should, regardless of the paycut, but it doesn't make the fact that you took a paycut any less stupid.

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    whysoserious;1059305453]What? A 401k is an investment that I pay out of my pocket for retirement and the company often matches payments up to a certain points - and it's tax free! That's great, what does that have to do with anything?
    And where is that money invested? Figure it out and how tht relates to corporate profits.

    You do realize that a tax cut for anyone is the same thing? I still don't see what that has to do with 401ks, but whatever. What do you think corporations do with money they get? Reinvest? Buy back common stock? Pay off long-term debt (or debt in general)? Keep it for liquidity?
    Great and how does that affect shareholders?

    They do lots of stuff but not much of it involves money "trickling" down to the plebs.
    Not sure where you went to school or where you work but you are really naive about business. Our education system has failed you. Everything a corporation does starting with payroll, benefits, and stock options trickle down to the employee and the shareholders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you realize that ALL taxes don't fund the Federal Govt, but instead FEDERAL INCOME TAXES fund the Federal Govt. and that is the issue. You have the ability to move from state to state to affect tax rates but it is harder to escape the Federal Income taxes. Apparently you don't seem to know the expense line items in the budget even though I have posted them numerous times.
    A tax is a tax is a tax.

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    Geez! Is there anything that man can't mess up. Now it's impossible to figure out where the poverty line is, who's on it, what's brings them over it and it might be effected by the price of carrots.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    You have $3,000 in bills due this month and you make $3,500. You decide that taking a pay cut is better for the company so you now earn $3,000 and have no money for food. You can cut, and maybe you should, regardless of the paycut, but it doesn't make the fact that you took a paycut any less stupid.
    Time to cut your bills down to a more managable level or --- get a 2nd job.

    The horror!!
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, I believe in social justice. It makes no sense to me to give the bankers that ****** us trillions of dollars and then go after the teachers, firefighters, and policeman to try to even the books. But that's just me.

    Why do you want to destroy the middle class? You think the world would be a better place if run by corporations?
    one of the more silly errors some lefties labor under is the concept that the government has GIVEN most of the rich their wealth and that justifies the government TAKING that wealth back



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A tax is a tax is a tax.

    A CPA named William Shakespeare said that.
    Yes, a tax is a tax but not all people pay taxes and you can control the amount of State taxes you pay by where you live and the amount of Federal Taxes you pay by the amount that you earn. Keep spinning.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Poor guy. I am away from home 3 weeks at a time and home one week. Feel sorry for me yet?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And where is that money invested? Figure it out and how tht relates to corporate profits.
    I have not hidden the fact that I am a student (no I am not ashamed that I am not rich yet) and that I am studying to be an Actuary. I bring it up often, because you people talk to me like I am stupid. Unfortunately, again, I understand how cash flows better than you might think.

    Money can be invested in all sorts of ways. Like I said earlier, it can be invested into various sorts of capital: assets, purchasing back of common stock, it can stay liquid, it can pay off debt, etc. They can do whatever they want with it. It could be invested like you are thinking, I guess, in bonds or other stocks.

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    Great and how does that affect shareholders?
    Who are shareholders? Teachers? I don't think owning stock is part of the teacher's fringe benefits that you want cut so badly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Not sure where you went to school or where you work but you are really naive about business. Our education system has failed you. Everything a corporation does starting with payroll, benefits, and stock options trickle down to the employee and the shareholders.
    Shareholders I'd agree with, and some employees, and sometimes even the customer. The question is how much and to who it goes. And I'll let you call me naive when you can explain to me what a bull spread is and how it is used. Or how about how to create a synthetic forward or short. Then we'll talk.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, a tax is a tax but not all people pay taxes and you can control the amount of State taxes you pay by where you live and the amount of Federal Taxes you pay by the amount that you earn. Keep spinning.
    This man says it more perfectly than I ever could.

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