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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Look, it's THEIR money, I have NO idea why that is so hard for Lefty to grasp.

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    Mr. Invisible;1059305216]I cannot agree with you on either part. What is causing our debt is a mixture of tax breaks, pointless wars, and maintaining a massive military all over the world, as well as other general problems like defense corps overcharging us for the equipment.
    The facts seem to prove you wrong. You can go to the BEA.gov and get the tax revenue AFTER the Reagan and Bush tax cuts and see govt. revenue rising. Wars are an expense, military bases are an expense, but not tax cuts. Why are you afraid to keep more of your own money?

    Also I say the gov needs X amount of $$ because X represents how much money the government needs to cover its expenses.

    Ever hear the saying that what you want often gets in the way of what you need? What the govt. "needs" is often confused with what they want. I assure you we don't need a 3.7 trillion dollar Federal Govt. That military budget that you are so angry about is about 700 billion dollars and according to the Constitution that is the role of the federal govt, defense. Do the math, that is 20% of the budget. Tax revenue more than funds that.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Tax cuts don't cause debt, spending does? When you get more take home pay is that an expense to the govt?
    This outright lie needs to be exposed. People who repeat it need to be publicly called out and the equivalent of getting a bucket of cold ice water in their face.

    Just about every husband in America knows that if they came home one day and told their wife that they have made a choice to only work part time from now on and they will have to get by on half the income but its only a matter of adjusting their spending what would be the reaction. "Sorry baby, but its you problem and its not my fault." Cutting your income when you cannot now make ends meets is insanity of the worst order. The fact that it is right wing gospel taken as communion before their altar of worship rivals the Kool-aid of Jim Jones and his wacko religion.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    No one's saying you can make it if you make stupid choices for a business or where to have that business. If you want a store near wal-mart you have to offer something they don't, like high end goods.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Look, it's THEIR money, I have NO idea why that is so hard for Lefty to grasp.
    So you are saying that taxpayer money belongs to the corporations?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    donc;1059305208]Yes if the majority of the employees vote for a union shop.
    Since public unions are funded by the taxpayers they are the ones that should decide whether they want public unions and in November they supported Walker who is doing exactly what he said he would do.



    Its called UNION solidarity.Now tell me why someone gagging in the polluted air of Houston Texas is so concerned about a Union in the badger?
    Apparently you don't know the difference between public and private unions. So union shops don't pollute? Interesting, where is your proof?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Look, it's THEIR money, I have NO idea why that is so hard for Lefty to grasp.
    And I guess it is also their
    roads
    streets
    mail service
    police protection service
    fire department service
    school system
    and hundreds of other things that THEIR MONEY pays for in a civilized society.

    Some of it is your money. Some of it is due to the government that legally represents all of us in society.

    Short reality: IT AIN'T ALL YOUR MONEY. You are not a freakin island nation responsible to nobody else but you. If you want it that way, start shopping in the international market for such a place.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The facts seem to prove you wrong. You can go to the BEA.gov and get the tax revenue AFTER the Reagan and Bush tax cuts and see govt. revenue rising. Wars are an expense, military bases are an expense, but not tax cuts. Why are you afraid to keep more of your own money?
    After Bush tax cuts: "The new CBO data show that changes in law enacted since January 2001 increased the deficit by $539 billion in 2005. In the absence of such legislation, the nation would have a surplus this year. Tax cuts account for almost half — 48 percent — of this $539 billion in increased costs." source
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    haymarket;1059305230]This outright lie needs to be exposed. People who repeat it need to be publicly called out and the equivalent of getting a bucket of cold ice water in their face.
    Making the same wild claims like you do all the time doesn't make it true. How is you keeping more of what you earn an expense to the Federal Govt.? Do you realize how stupid that statement is?

    Just about every husband in America knows that if they came home one day and told their wife that they have made a choice to only work part time from now on and they will have to get by on half the income but its only a matter of adjusting their spending what would be the reaction. "Sorry baby, but its you problem and its not my fault." Cutting your income when you cannot now make ends meets is insanity of the worst order. The fact that it is right wing gospel taken as communion before their altar of worship rivals the Kool-aid of Jim Jones and his wacko religion.

    There are TWO sides to every budget. Live with that knowledge

    My bet is that even you has a budget. If your spending is cut then what do you do with spending? How do you explain tax revenue going up AFTER the Reagan and Bush tax cuts? Liberals are just economically challenged.

    It is frustrating that I am here defending you keeping more of what you earn. How much of the Bush tax cut have you sent back to the govt. since they need the money more than you?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    LOL....how much of my money do you want?

    You are free to call anyone out you wish..but you will end up with egg on your face.

    Your premise is that ALL money is the Gov's....it isn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This outright lie needs to be exposed. People who repeat it need to be publicly called out and the equivalent of getting a bucket of cold ice water in their face.

    Just about every husband in America knows that if they came home one day and told their wife that they have made a choice to only work part time from now on and they will have to get by on half the income but its only a matter of adjusting their spending what would be the reaction. "Sorry baby, but its you problem and its not my fault." Cutting your income when you cannot now make ends meets is insanity of the worst order. The fact that it is right wing gospel taken as communion before their altar of worship rivals the Kool-aid of Jim Jones and his wacko religion.

    There are TWO sides to every budget. Live with that knowledge.
    Obama is NOT 50 feet tall, he is ONE inch deep.
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