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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Didn't even watch it, did you? Stossel happens to be a libertarian by the way and doesn't always agree with the regulars on Fox.
    I remembered what you said about not trusting "facts" from a biased organization. Got anything credible to show the plight of the middle class is improving in relation to increase in wealth by the super rich?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    In what world?

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2206rank.html
    The CIA puts us 46th in percent of GDP spent on education.

    World education rankings: which country does best at reading, maths and science? | News | guardian.co.uk


    Educational Score Performance - Country Rankings
    You can also see how terrible we were in 2009. Our education system is really not that great.

    U.S. Education Slips In Rankings - CBS News


    You're right, we better cut education so that we can give tax breaks to the guys who trade derivatives! No wonder our system is so screwed up?



    Bill Gates has stated publicly that he plans on donating everything except for a few million to his kids.
    Bill Gates pledges his $58 billion fortune to charity... rather than his children | Mail Online

    It's a beautiful thing. I think, unfortunately, he is even going to break apart the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation - which is a shame (as it is one of the few truly benevolent organizations in the world).
    Since we have a 14.5 TRILLION Dollar Economy that is an incredible amount spent on education. In addition both state and federal govt. spends money on education and has been pointed out just spending money doesn't solve the education problems. Wisconsin teachers make more than the average or even the median salary nationwide and they rank near the bottom in results. Just goes to show how much money is wasted in the public sector tht you ignore.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I remembered about what you said about not trusting "facts" from a biased organization. Got anything credible to show the plight of the middle class is improving in relation to increase in wealth by the super rich?
    If the middle class isn't improving that is their fault not someone else's. Liberals have created an entitlement mentality and that is why many fail, they lose the incentive to achieve. Stop blaming someone else for your own failures.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Every town doesn't have a Wal-Mart so move if that is what you want to do. Amazing isn't it how many people line up to work at Wal-Mart when a new one opens up and amazing how much the public saves at a Wal-Mart that allows them to do more with their money. Even more importantly people working at Wal-Mart full time don't make minimum wage, get full benefits, and are promoted from within to other positions including corporate. So what is your problem again?
    People line up to work at Walmarts because once a Walmart moves in, they will not be able to compete with them
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    One sixth of the country being under the poverty line doesn't concern you huh?
    You didn't respond to what I rebutted.
    You claimed the middle class was suffering as a direct result of income inequality.

    as to the new worry of yours, the poverty figures, do you mean the international poverty line or the U.S. poverty line? I lived in poverty, according to the U.S. poverty line. And I can tell you, it did NOT concern me. Some of the best years of my life looking back.

    Besides, I just pointed you to what raises the most people out of poverty the fastest:
    The point at which the poor start entering the middle class by the millions is the time when poor countries get the maximum benefit from cheap labour through international trade, before they price themselves out of world markets for cheap goods

    Because your trickle down theory has proven not to work. Why would I possible want to continue practices that have only made our economy worse for the middle class?
    That's not my theory, that's based on the middle class wiki citing the Economist. Jesus man, we have world economies emerging from the dark ages of central planning clearly evidencing the power of the market, and we STILL have people covering their eyes screaming they don't see it? What? This is NOT partisan, this is about real life.

    We have been trickled on quite enough already thank you!
    You are tricking yourself unfortunately :/ See above.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    How is the pie available for everyone else when a minority controls the majority of the pie?
    Because their is not just one pie. Make your own. Don't steal someone else's.

    In other words, get an education, get a job, don't go into debt for anything but your education, save your money, invest, don't get anyone pregnant, live in an apartment, drive a used car you paid cash for, work hard, get promoted, get promoted again, create something, write a book, do whatever it takes to grow your own pie. Then if you want to give it away, go ahead. Or you could get married, buy a house and have raise a family.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    LOL...Bammy and Bush did it...the Public wanted to let them fail.
    So you propose to give those same bankers and hedge fund managers more in tax cuts that are added to our debt? How does that make sense?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    You are not writing anything that remotely reflects reality. Why?

    If your idea of starting a business is randomly starting a mom-and-pop shop to go head on with wal mart on general low cost retail items, you're offering the worst advice I've read on DP in recent memory.

    I mean, why can't you just go compete with Toyota right now? They are keeping you down! The corporate man is preventing you? What a crock.

    You start based on your means. You generate income. You save, you make more, you re-invest, you make more, you re-invest. As whysoserious informed you, wealth begets wealth.

    Or, you just to work up the ladder and become an executive and make 7-figures and get company stocks. That's getting a piece of the pie too. Any way you cut it, you are free to. More free than nearly any other society in human history to boot.
    Hey, I was just following your advice as you said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Because you're free to jump in there any time you want. People demonstrate this fact every day. They don't "control" it in any practical sense. That's why we have free markets to begin with, to prevent control.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    People line up to work at Walmarts because once a Walmart moves in, they will not be able to compete with them
    So what? Wal-Mart is the largest retailer in the world that teaches employees how to run business. Most of Wal-Mart managers came from within the company starting out as cashiers. Many in the corporate office started in the stores as well. Why is that a problem for you?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Right, taxpayers funding public unions that use their dues to fund campaign ads that keep politicians in power that continue to bilk the taxpayer for higher union benefits.
    Taxpayers funding public unions? Taxpayers pay for a service, be it fire protection, police protection, or getting their potholes filled after a long hard winter.

    It is easy for someone like you who doesn't live in Wisconsin to have no problem with the taxes the people of Wisconsin pay to fund these public unions.
    Its called fighting a Koch bros funded winger virus.


    You seem to do that a lot, get involved in causes that costs someone else, not you, personal income.
    Hhmm…wonder if someone took the time to count the post in this thread which of us would have the most post. My money would be on you.
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