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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I bet there are some coal miners from the 1880s who would totally disagree with you. Keep in mind that a union is simply a group of people who share a common interest. Lots of them are teachers (who I think we can all agree are still underpaid), police officers, coal miners, and auto workers.
    I bet you don't realize that you proved my point.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    Sounds like you'd rather take cheap shots then have an intellectual discussion, but then again maybe your not intellectually capable of that.

    I''ll never be so low as to expect others to subsidize my standard of living like many Liberals do, I can earn that myself and I dont need a Union.
    You cannot have an intellectual discussion with people whose knowledge of unions and union members is a perverted distortion of a cartoon universe in which reality never intrudes or raises its head.

    some here should read this

    http://www.thenation.com/article/158...public-workers

    WARNING: It is not a cartoon caricature written in a drive-by cliche filled style designed to appeal to people who think unions and Tony Soprano are the same people.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're OK with unions making their money off the backs of private sector working folks?
    What does that even mean?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    LOL, teachers. And unions. What a toxic mix.

    I remember in my 20s that the teachers were always the drunkest girls in the bar and the easiest to take home. I remember the conversations and thinking to myself, "You actually teach kids? I knew more than you when I was 10."

    Obviously, "math" isn't the strongest subject for this lot because the money just isn't there. 1-2=a bankrupt state.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You cannot have an intellectual discussion with people whose knowledge of unions and union members is a perverted distortion of a cartoon universe in which reality never intrudes or raises its head.

    some here should read this

    The Betrayal of Public Workers | The Nation

    WARNING: It is not a cartoon caricature written in a drive-by cliche filled style designed to appeal to people who think unions and Tony Soprano are the same people.
    Wrong I have been in unions and a shop stewart. Unions no longer serve a purpose other than being a political machine with the union dues from members

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No this is about the State Budget and saving the taxpayers money. The Unions and Democrats are making it a political issue. As always the Democrats would rather spend more and raise taxes and put more burden on the middle class
    hmmm....lets put this in perspective....wisconsin has what? a 3.5 billion dollar hole in the budget, the governor hopes to save 30 MILLION by june, and 300 MILLION over what, 3 years by screwing over the working man? lets see....3.5 BILLION minus 330 MILLION in savings by screwing over the working class...seems to me that that leaves 3.17BILLION HOLE IN BUDGET.... nothing more than an attempt to strip away collective bargaining rights of the union...union busting.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Wrong I have been in unions and a shop stewart. Unions no longer serve a purpose other than being a political machine with the union dues from members
    what union were you in?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    hmmm....lets put this in perspective....wisconsin has what? a 3.5 billion dollar hole in the budget, the governor hopes to save 30 MILLION by june, and 300 MILLION over what, 3 years by screwing over the working man? lets see....3.5 BILLION minus 330 MILLION in savings by screwing over the working class...seems to me that that leaves 3.17BILLION HOLE IN BUDGET.... nothing more than an attempt to strip away collective bargaining rights of the union...union busting.
    I agree. I'm often struck by how much work goes into demonizing poorer and working folk, which amount to small savings, while ignoring larger problems that favor more wealthy persons. Ideally, a serious effort would at least address both, if not favor the backbone, the working person.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    hmmm....lets put this in perspective....wisconsin has what? a 3.5 billion dollar hole in the budget, the governor hopes to save 30 MILLION by june, and 300 MILLION over what, 3 years by screwing over the working man? lets see....3.5 BILLION minus 330 MILLION in savings by screwing over the working class...seems to me that that leaves 3.17BILLION HOLE IN BUDGET.... nothing more than an attempt to strip away collective bargaining rights of the union...union busting.
    Screwing over the working man?

    Its the working man in the private sector from which the Public sector union slobs cut from his back their bloated salaries, gold plated health insurance, and diamond inlayed pensions.

    .........or do outrageous property taxes/state taxes/city taxes not count as "screwing over the working man"?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Screwing over the working man?

    Its the working man in the private sector from which the Public sector union slobs cut from his back their bloated salaries, gold plated health insurance, and diamond inlayed pensions.

    .........or do outrageous property taxes/state taxes/city taxes not count as "screwing over the working man"?
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    did you read any of my post other than 'working man'? doesnt look like you did....the unions are not the problem here, and i'm sure that they are willing to step up to the plate and pick up more of the costs for their health insurance and pensions....benefits/pay are not the issue, this governor is hell bent on taking away collective bargaining rights of these unions, he wants to force them to 're-certify' every year, and wants to take away their ability to collect union dues...hence, he is trying to turn wisconsin into a 'right to work' state....he is trying to union bust.

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