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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    From Governor Walker:



    A 5% contribution to their own pension funds. How cruel. 12% of their healthcare costs. OMFG!!! The sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    i support what the governor is asking for when it comes to contributing more to their pensions and insurance..,i'd be ok with him wanting to phase out pensions, and switch over to 401k plans...but wanting to take away their collective bargaining rights is total bs.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i support what the governor is asking for when it comes to contributing more to their pensions and insurance..,i'd be ok with him wanting to phase out pensions, and switch over to 401k plans...but wanting to take away their collective bargaining rights is total bs.
    Yeah, it'd put 'em in the same position as 89% of the American people. How disgusting.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Since it apparently went right over your head, how about reviewing some of the posts on this thread and tell us what FDR's position was on public unions? Seems that the author of the New Deal that liberals love to champion doesn't have the same position on public unions as those on the left.
    No it did not.

    FDR was President seventy years ago. The America of his time is not the America of today. Things change and the attitude about public sector unions is one of those changes.

    I am sure that a person of your knowledge and intelligence fully realizes that the positions of liberals have moved a bit in the last seven decades.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    you seem to forget, or choose to ignore, that union members pay taxes to, and are 'taxpayers'....
    I haven't forgotten at all, but you seem to have forgotten who pays their salaries and benefits. As has been reported State workers in Ohio don't contribute to SS and yet the taxpayers fund their pensions. How would you like that extra in your paycheck that you are now paying for SS but they aren't?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    I think that thsi situaiton is answering a long-asked question that's been around in the last few years:

    What is more important - government debt to maintain unmaintainable excessive deficit and spending?
    Or balancing the budget.

    All of these teachers have decided that balancing their state budget isn't important . . . and prefer an overall economic statewide collapse.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I think that thsi situaiton is answering a long-asked question that's been around in the last few years:

    What is more important - government debt to maintain unmaintainable excessive deficit and spending?
    Or balancing the budget.

    All of these teachers have decided that balancing their state budget isn't important . . . and prefer an overall economic statewide collapse.
    But your statement is a complete denial of what is actually happening in Wisconsin. The unions have publicly stated they will pay more to help balance the budget.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But your statement is a complete denial of what is actually happening in Wisconsin. The unions have publicly stated they will pay more to help balance the budget.
    the unions have agreed to everything except denying them collective bargaining. this is purely about union busting, and people need to know that.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the unions have agreed to everything except denying them collective bargaining. this is purely about union busting, and people need to know that.
    LibLady!! You keep singing this tune. Where if your link????? They have agreed to nothing!!

    Same to Haymarket: where is your link?? A union press release; copy of a letter to the Governor. What'cha got? Nothin'.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But your statement is a complete denial of what is actually happening in Wisconsin. The unions have publicly stated they will pay more to help balance the budget.
    Yeah - well If that was all at hand and in question then there'd be no opposition or strike going on.

    It's the Collective Bargaining that they're all in heat over - from my understanding.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the unions have agreed to everything except denying them collective bargaining. this is purely about union busting, and people need to know that.
    If that is the case, so be it, there is no place in this country for public unions funded by the taxpayers. On this FDR got it right but of course liberals ignore that.

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