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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually most legal scholars admit the New deal was a rejection of the original intent as well as the existing precedent

    read the various commentaries on schechter poultry etc

    LOL! Please cite for us the Supreme Court ruling where unions have been overturned on Constitutional grounds?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! Please cite for us the Supreme Court ruling where unions have been overturned on Constitutional grounds?
    I never said that sir strawman.

    the new deal was far more than unions

    it was destroying the tenth amendment, procedural due process and using the commerce clause as a carte blanche for government desires.

    FDR opposed public sector unions



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So what? They get plenty of services in return for their dues.
    She is a nonmember, or did you miss that part?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is silly to point out that your views are irrelevant because YOU are impotent to do anything about them not being on the US Supreme Court?

    okay.
    And you are in the supreme court?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I never said that sir strawman.
    You claimed unions were not constitutional. I've demonstrated that they are by the rule of law.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    She is a nonmember, or did you miss that part?
    She does NOT have to be a member. She still gets the negotiated salary that the union negotiated for all. She still gets the negotiated benefits the union negotiated for all. She still gets the negotiated working conditions the union negotiated for all.

    She gets plenty for her dollar. Most agents get 10% - some more. She is getting a bargain and should be thankful for it.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Thats crap. They should support those that put forward an agenda. Not blindly support one party
    Blindly is your word. I think a argument can be made that one party clearly does more than the other. You seem to be arguing, if we talk all you say into account, rich people supporting and contributing to a party is a divine right given by God. However, working folk doing so through a union is corruption. Right?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You claimed unions were not constitutional. I've demonstrated that they are by the rule of law.
    This entire argument you are using you do realize is complete trash, I hope.

    To claim supreme court rulings=constitutional is absolute and total nonsense.

    Unless of course you think Citizens United's ruling was correct. :p

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yes it is. That money is paid to the unions to represent its members not to be a political arm of the democrat party
    in my union, the UAW, member dues most certainly DO NOT GO TO SUPPORT POLITICAL CANDIDATES..the money used for that comes from separate VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTIONS . NO DUES ARE USED...

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