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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    The evidence is the number of union employees, the number that vote for Republicans, and the amount spent on elections. Yes, I believe the law is being broken but since I don't live in a union state, it doesn't affect me at all. Can explain where the money actually comes from that is being spent in Wisconsin and where the votes are coming from in Wisconsin that generates more dollars and more votes than there are people in the various precincts?
    You must provide evidence the law was broken. No one else has to prove it wasn't. What you THINK doesn't mean much. What you can support does.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    You must provide evidence the law was broken. No one else has to prove it wasn't. What you THINK doesn't mean much. What you can support does.
    I don't see a lot of evidence from you on any issue. You bury your head in the sand because that is what you want to believe. Logic and common sense tells me that if 40% of the union workers vote Republican and that union membership is dropping that there is no way that unions can fund campaigns out of PAC contributions alone. Believe what you want to believe but that just shows how naive you are

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    I don't see a lot of evidence from you on any issue. You bury your head in the sand because that is what you want to believe. Logic and common sense tells me that if 40% of the union workers vote Republican and that union membership is dropping that there is no way that unions can fund campaigns out of PAC contributions alone. Believe what you want to believe but that just shows how naive you are
    Where I make a factual claim, I offer support. If I had claimed the law was broken, I wold provide evidence and explain my reasoning. It is not too much to ask that you support your claim.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    I asked a question based upon logic and common sense. It has been reported that 40% of the union members vote Republican so that leaves 60% to support PAC's. Are you contending that dues aren't going to the PAC's?
    i've explained this several times, provided several links, as where money for political activity comes from, you choose to ignore it in order to keep perpetuating your LIE....the law has been explained to you, links have been provided...where are yours ?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i've explained this several times, provided several links, as where money for political activity comes from, you choose to ignore it in order to keep perpetuating your LIE....the law has been explained to you, links have been provided...where are yours ?
    You have explained the law but laws have and continue to be broken. Doesn't look like liberals care much about laws that they don't like. Union membership is dropping, 40% of union employees vote Republican, PACS alone cannot support the money being thrown into campaigns. You want to believe that your dues don't go to campaigns, so bet it. enjoy the fantasy. It is your money and apparently you don't mind wasting it.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have explained the law but laws have and continue to be broken. Doesn't look like liberals care much about laws that they don't like. Union membership is dropping, 40% of union employees vote Republican, PACS alone cannot support the money being thrown into campaigns. You want to believe that your dues don't go to campaigns, so bet it. enjoy the fantasy. It is your money and apparently you don't mind wasting it.
    proof...put up or shut up..

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    proof...put up or shut up..
    I know how much you need the unions and thus your support. I never needed the unions. You want to live in fantasyland, no problem. Doesn't bother me at all that people like you exist.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    I know how much you need the unions and thus your support. I never needed the unions. You want to live in fantasyland, no problem. Doesn't bother me at all that people like you exist.
    by your response, i see you have nothing to offer in the way of proof....either put up or shut up. no one cares what you 'believe'....proof is required.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    by your response, i see you have nothing to offer in the way of proof....either put up or shut up. no one cares what you 'believe'....proof is required.
    Proof cannot be provided without an investigation and this administration isn't going to investigate unions. As I stated, you want to believe that unions don't break the law, then so be it, that is fantasy. It takes guts to take on the thugs and not many have those guts. I never needed unions to take care of me as I always had more pride in myself and more confidence in my abilities. That worked well for me. Obviously you feel differently and need that "help." you want to believe that unions don't spend your dues on campaigns that is your choice. You cannot prove they don't and I cannot prove without an investigation that they do. Keep supporting unions and continue to get less than maybe you can earn for yourself.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Proof is still required regardless of excuses.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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