[QUOTE=ElijahGalt;1059324362]Yes, difference that can't be in the public school, and not especially desirable differences. Without public schools, these child would be left out. And yes, parental involvement is desirable a great thing. However, we will never have all parents involved, so do we leave those students (or maybe blame the teachers)?You have just named three major differences that private schools offer as an alternative to public schools. First of all, small class sizes are a good thing. If a private company is over flooded with an excess number of students, they have the capability and power to build another school. Second, I believe we've already agreed that bad behavior should no tbe tolerated anywhere, regardless of public or private affiliations. There's no changes in the private sector necessary to meet this standard. If you would like to see public schools discriminating against bad behavior, then you'll need to take the issue up with your local bureaucrats. But both of have agreed in the past that discriminating against bad behavior is a step in the right direction, and if students refuse to learn than so be it. Finally, more parental involvement in the education of students is quite positive. It is, after all, the parent's child and not the schools.
Like it? No, I'm OK with it, but it is a major difference, and contributes to the numbers you think proves private schools teach better.It is the case in my district. But again, what is the ultimate outcome you'd like to see? You don't like it when private schools are able to expel misbehaving children and you've noted in the past that you don't like it when public schools are forced to keep such students, so what is the ultimate outcome you wish to see? You seem to be applying a double standard.
I'd like see more effort put into fixing public schools, and not just abandoning them. I'd like parents to rally and put their effort in to helping those schools aready there to improve education for all. The private school silver bullet is simply not going to fix very much.
Not how I see it. If I look at data, use experience, and reach a conclusion, coming to believe something, I'm not exercising faith.You said "I believe" and belief is the basis of faith, not knowledge.
Maybe not, but then again, it was never the only issue.That's horrible, but ultimately it is the right of parents to decide where their kid will be taught. I'm all for integration but forced integration and forced busing hasn't led to any major improvements in the education system.
I will look that up this weekend. But as a parent who visited the classrooms his kids were in, I don't think teachers are the major problem in US. They are just the ones who have been scapegoated. Maybe you shoudl look up this book:Then perhaps you should take a look at the study, yourself. The book is called The Beautiful Tree by James Tooley. And PS, the public school system in the countries where the study was conducted had horrible rates of attrition and achievement. The problem isn't bad schools giving phony grades, but rather bad schools tolerating bad habits (i.e. allowing teachers to read a newspaper and/or sleep while the children do busy work). And again, it is the right of parents to send their children to whatever school they deem is appropriate. If stupid parents wish to send their kids to a diploma mill, then we must let them. School choice must triumph over imposed slavery.
Diane Ravitch, The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education (New York: Basic Books, 2010).
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It was a poll. They asked parents questions (not sure that makes anyone elitist or condesending). But, I'll said I would look for it later, and I did. Here it is:And I wonder who was behind such a study. That's pretty condescending and elitist, if you ask me. You're implying teachers and administrators know what's best for a child more so than their own parents.
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