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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    been there, done that...the bill strips them of the right to bargain benefits, it forces the unions to have a 'vote' every year to stay certified, it makes paying dues or joining the union an 'option' ...perhaps YOU SHOULD READ THE BILL.
    You don't think workers should have the choice to join the union or pay dues? Weird......
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Here is the official report from the State of Wisconsin Fiscal Bureau. Read it and you can see how the new Governor helped manufacture this so called crisis just to be able to attempt to do what he is now doing.

    http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Misc/...os&Darling.pdf


    2010-11
    Revenues

    Opening Balance, July 1 $25,718,100
    Taxes 12,691,400,000
    Departmental Revenues
    Tribal Gaming 22,330,300
    Other 833,733,300
    Total Available $13,573,181,700

    Appropriations

    Gross Appropriations $14,109,283,800
    Compensation Reserves 95,962,700
    Biennial Appropriation Adjustment -242,677,200
    Sum Sufficient Reestimates -121,637,800
    Less Lapses -389,112,600
    Net Appropriations $13,451,818,900

    Balances

    Gross Balance $121,362,800
    Less Required Statutory Balance -65,000,000
    Net Balance, June 30 $56,362,800
    Here is what the people need to know and it is the taxpayers that fund the public unions

    THE TRUTH

    WISCONSIN TEACHERS (average) THE REST OF US

    Average Salary $51,100 $50,400
    Benefits $38,400 $10,600

    Total $89,500 $61,000

    On the job 9 months a year Work year round
    Retirement at 50-55 y.o w/ 70% of pay Retire at 65 (maybe) with whatever the stock market leaves you with
    Full health benefits for life Good luck

    CONTRIBUTION

    Pension 0.2% taxpayers pay the rest Good luck and 5-20%
    Health 4-6% taxpayers pay the rest Good luck and as much as 50%

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Here is what the people need to know and it is the taxpayers that fund the public unions

    THE TRUTH

    WISCONSIN TEACHERS (average) THE REST OF US

    Average Salary $51,100 $50,400
    Benefits $38,400 $10,600

    Total $89,500 $61,000

    On the job 9 months a year Work year round
    Retirement at 50-55 y.o w/ 70% of pay Retire at 65 (maybe) with whatever the stock market leaves you with
    Full health benefits for life Good luck

    CONTRIBUTION

    Pension 0.2% taxpayers pay the rest Good luck and 5-20%
    Health 4-6% taxpayers pay the rest Good luck and as much as 50%
    Now please go back and compare comparable educational levels and skill levels. Or do you prefer comparing apples to cinder blocks and then complaining that your pie tastes like concrete?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, from a minority position? Unions make up 11% of the work force so unless 11% is the majority, you are off base again as usual. take your argument to the taxpayers and see if they buy the collective bargaining agreement for public employees?
    You really need to pay more attention to what you read. Again, just for you because you are special

    The GOP is facing demographics that spell DOOM for a political party of all white people in the next few decades. They must find a strategy that permits them to rule from a minority position in which they disenfranchise those who would vote against them. This is part of it.
    Now read it a few times just so you get the point.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Now please go back and compare comparable educational levels and skill levels. Or do you prefer comparing apples to cinder blocks and then complaining that your pie tastes like concrete?
    Explain to me why this is an issue for you? You posted numbers but ignored the content of the article that you posted showing the state in dire straits. Why do public employees make more than the private sector? this is an issue for the citizens of Wisconsin. If they want to pay those outrageous benefits, then that is their choice. the protests are typical union bully tactics that apparently you condone.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You really need to pay more attention to what you read. Again, just for you because you are special



    Now read it a few times just so you get the point.
    Keep believing this is the political party of all white people. Good people of all races see what is happening in Wisconsin as an example of the labor movement destroying the economy of the state. Fair minded people aren't in today's Democrat Party and means members of all races.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    do you work for this school district? are you a teacher?
    no and no.. but i have quite a few friends and family who do and are, if it makes you feel better.

    why should it make a difference in either case? with little effort, i can find out what all teachers in illinois make:
    Family Taxpayers Foundation
    as can i for WI teachers:
    Wisconsin public school employee pay for the 2009-2010 school year - JSOnline

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Unions are dinosaurs in desperate need of a tarpit.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's actually more than that, it's about stripping the Democratic Party of a major support group. This is just the beginning. I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Gov. Walker go major from the Koch Bros. The Republicans are trying to get one party rule..
    That is exactly the big issue. Thank you for making it again here. The unions are the only big money supporter of the Democrats. If they can be busted that leaves one party with all the big money donors.

    Everyone good with one party running the government?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That is exactly the big issue. Thank you for making it again here. The unions are the only big money supporter of the Democrats. If they can be busted that leaves one party with all the big money donors.

    Everyone good with one party running the government?
    If the reaction here on this site is any indication, as long as that single party is a conservative one, lots of people here would be just ducky with it.
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