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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    President Obama commenting on events around the USA has absolutely NOTHING to do with the ability of different states to pass laws under our system of federalism. You are linking two things that are linked only in your mind by your blind hatred of both unions and President Obama.
    Right, the President with the bully pulpit is nothing more than common citizen commenting on state activities. LOL, now that is funny. This is about collective bargaining for public unions whether or not state or federal employees. What your posts show is actual partisan opinions based upon nothing other than what you feel.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    because it isn't their money-its the taxpayers money
    Oh I see....so if you are a state employee than the government should be able to dictate every expense you make...afterall....even though they earned it, its not "Their money"...its the "taxpayers money". So I assume then you would oppose state workers purchasing beer with their paychecks, because you wouldn't want taxpayer money spent on beer, right?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh I see....so if you are a state employee than the government should be able to dictate every expense you make...afterall....even though they earned it, its not "Their money"...its the "taxpayers money". So I assume then you would oppose state workers purchasing beer with their paychecks, because you wouldn't want taxpayer money spent on beer, right?
    LOL, you are kidding, right, where are wages being taken away by Walker? Who pays for the state union employees healthcare, pensions and other benefits in Wisconsin?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Good, bring it on. You have four years to campaign on that issue in Wisconsin.
    Four years? You wish! The election campaign for President is about to begin. And this attempt at a corporate takeover of Wisconsin is going to be fresh in people's mind.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, you are kidding, right, where are wages being taken away by Walker? Who pays for the state union employees healthcare, pensions and other benefits in Wisconsin?
    Your response isn't even close to being on point to the conversation b/w Turtledude and myself. Did you just see my name and decide to post something completely unrelated to the response...or what that done on error?

    BTW....like most employees, state union employees pay a portion and their employer pays a portion.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nope, Walker never campaigned on ending collective bargaining. He is going against what his people want. That is why you are seeing the largest protest in his state since the Vietnam War, and why all the polls are against Walker's attempt to end collective bargaining.

    Should make for a very interesting election in 2012. The timing couldn't have been better for the Walker and the Koch brothers to attempt their hostile corporate takeover of the state of Wisconsin. It will be a showcase for the country during the campaign.
    It's not just Wisconsin. The bright light of knowledge and truth about public-sector pensions and bennies is shining in other states as well:

    AS RESISTANCE to public-sector unionism has intensified, many of the noisiest confrontations have been on the coasts.

    In New Jersey, freshman Governor Chris Christie has been locked a battle royale with his state's powerful teachers unions. In California, Oakland's new mayor began her first full day in office by demanding that unionized police officers, who pay nothing toward their pensions, be required to contribute 9 percent of their salaries. In New York, federal prosecutors have opened a criminal investigation into whether Sanitation Department workers purposely paralyzed the city with a work slowdown during last month's blizzard. In Massachusetts, Governor Deval Patrick infuriated public-safety unions by replacing costly police details with civilian flaggers at many construction and repair sites.
    Two Republican governors -- Mitch Daniels in Indiana and Matt Blunt in Missouri -- issued executive orders rolling back collective-bargaining rights for state workers. Because public-sector unions in those states had been granted the right to bargain collectively through executive orders in the first place, Daniels and Blunt had only to rescind their predecessors' actions.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh I see....so if you are a state employee than the government should be able to dictate every expense you make...afterall....even though they earned it, its not "Their money"...its the "taxpayers money". So I assume then you would oppose state workers purchasing beer with their paychecks, because you wouldn't want taxpayer money spent on beer, right?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Four years? You wish! The election campaign for President is about to begin. And this attempt at a corporate takeover of Wisconsin is going to fresh in people's mind.
    Aw, but this is about Federalism, just ask haymarket. You have yet to explain why state employees are entitled collective bargaining rights for benefits when the people that pay their salaries have no bargaining power over those unions other than the vote. Once the truth gets out, the 11.9% of the work force that is unionized most of which are public employees the public will wise up and actually take it out on the unions. All looks well for 2012

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Your response isn't even close to being on point to the conversation b/w Turtledude and myself. Did you just see my name and decide to post something completely unrelated to the response...or what that done on error?

    BTW....like most employees, state union employees pay a portion and their employer pays a portion.
    You don't know what is going on in Wisconsin but act like an expert. Do some research and stop being foolish.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    like most employees, state union employees pay a portion and their employer pays a portion.
    yup

    and the taxpayer's on the hook

    FT.com / US / Economy & Fed - US public pensions face $2,500bn shortfall

    TWO POINT FIVE TRILLION, baby!

    that's an awful lotta hook

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