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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Apparently Obama doesn't believe in collective bargaining for Federal Union employees since he never offered up a bill that would have given them collective bargaining rights. He had total control of the govt. for two years and no legislation regarding public unions.
    Many Federal employees do have collective bargaining rights, but what does that have to do with what the voters want? Please try to stay on subject.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Many Federal employees do have collective bargaining rights, but what does that have to do with what the voters want? Please try to stay on subject.
    The voters showed what they wanted on Nov. 2, 2010 but elections don't matter when the results aren't what liberals want. Federal Workers do NOT have collective bargaining rights on wages and benefits as has been posted and linked here many times. You simply continue to ignore the facts to spout talking points.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    The voters showed what they wanted on Nov. 2, 2010 but elections don't matter when the results aren't what liberals want. .
    Nope, Walker never campaigned on ending collective bargaining. He is going against what his people want. That is why you are seeing the largest protest in his state since the Vietnam War, and why all the polls are against Walker's attempt to end collective bargaining.

    Should make for a very interesting election in 2012. The timing couldn't have been better for the Walker and the Koch brothers to attempt their hostile corporate takeover of the state of Wisconsin. It will be a showcase for the country during the campaign.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Nope, Walker never campaigned on ending collective bargaining. He is going against what his people want. That is why you are seeing the largest protest in his state since the Vietnam War, and why all the polls are against Walker's attempt to end collective bargaining.

    Should make for a very interesting election in 2012. The timing couldn't have been better for the Walker and the Koch brothers to attempt their hostile corporate takeover of the state of Wisconsin. It will be a showcase for the country during the campaign.
    Good, bring it on. You have four years to campaign on that issue in Wisconsin. By then the budget will be balanced and new jobs created in Wisconsin. You obviously don't understand private business at all but guess what as long as the wacko left exists there will be public union employees but no private sector jobs being created. Why not turn the entire state over to public employees?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Apparently Obama doesn't believe in collective bargaining for Federal Union employees since he never offered up a bill that would have given them collective bargaining rights. He had total control of the govt. for two years and no legislation regarding public unions.
    Apparently Conservative doesn't believe in Federalism for states to enact their own laws independent from the Federal Government in Washington DC.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Apparently Conservative doesn't believe in Federalism for states to enact their own laws independent from the Federal Government in Washington DC.
    There you go again, different day same old argument. This isn't about Federalism or Obama would have stayed out of the issue. This is about unions and collective bargaining. Seems strange that someone so pro union wouldn't change the Federal law giving federal union employees the same rights as the Public unions get in Wisconsin.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    You have four years to campaign on that issue in Wisconsin. By then the budget will be balanced and new jobs created in Wisconsin.
    I can evision the posts as I sit here.

    Anti Walker poster: there is no evidence that the moves made by Walker are responsible for any jobs created in his tenure.

    Conservative: You obviously are a wacko leftist who does not understand private business at all and think people only exist to pay taxes to subsidize unproductive union members.

    Something to look forward to in a few years. or not.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    if all the polls (LOL!) show such "solid support" for the unionists, then why are they all racing each other and governors cuomo and brown to increase so radically their contributions towards their health care and retirements?

    walker's already won

    try to stay up

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    There you go again, different day same old argument. This isn't about Federalism or Obama would have stayed out of the issue. This is about unions and collective bargaining. Seems strange that someone so pro union wouldn't change the Federal law giving federal union employees the same rights as the Public unions get in Wisconsin.
    President Obama commenting on events around the USA has absolutely NOTHING to do with the ability of different states to pass laws under our system of federalism. You are linking two things that are linked only in your mind by your blind hatred of both unions and President Obama.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    I can evision the posts as I sit here.

    Anti Walker poster: there is no evidence that the moves made by Walker are responsible for any jobs created in his tenure.

    Conservative: You obviously are a wacko leftist who does not understand private business at all and think people only exist to pay taxes to subsidize unproductive union members.

    Something to look forward to in a few years. or not.
    I am convinced that you have sold your employer, a state representative, the value of being in political forums to guage the attitude of people. Hopefully your employer isn't monitoring your posts because he wouldn't take positively your defense of state public union collective bargaining while ignoring the plight of Federal Union employees. Doubt that your employer if monitoring your posts would allow you to continue.

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