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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    CBS News/New York Times survey oversampled union households | Mark Tapscott | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner

    bottom line: how can the american people be in solid support when even ANDREW CUOMO and MOONBEAM BROWN aren't

    the gubs of blue bastions ny and ca are, indeed, about to SLASH

    what's gonna happen to the seiu's and afscme's after public payroll gets CHOPPED

    union dues, campaign contributions, political clout...

    who's gonna counter the kochs
    Obviously lots of the American people simply do not agree with Walker or you.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! It took you a while! But that's alright, I knew you wouldn't find anything to back up your position. Yes, we will indeed see you at the polls. It should be a very interesting election next year - the rich against the middle class!

    Already, Wisconsin has not seen protests this size since the Vietnam War!
    The rich against the middle class. Its about time the lines were clearly drawn.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Obviously lots of the American people simply do not agree with Walker or you.
    cuomo does

    in fact, people like me might say the newly elected GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK goes too far

    he's so mean and angry

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I knew you wouldn't find anything to back up your position
    says the hater of half america who resorts to a poll from a dem outfit on the badger state gubernatorial TWO YEARS OUT

    LOL!

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    tuesday, march 1, 2011---the G-A-O audit finds a full HALF TRILLION DOLLARS of waste, largesse, graft, incompetence...

    Gov't Watchdog IDs Billions In Federal Waste - Politics News Story - WSMV Nashville

    good luck convincing americans they should give MORE to the BUREAUCRATS who already MISPLACED a HALF TRILLION DOLLARS

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I said what I meant and meant what I said. the rich most of the actually tax dollars in this country. The top 5% pay more federal income taxes than the bottom 95% and more death confiscation taxes (indeed the top 1 percent pay more DC taxes than the bottom 99%)

    as to the taxes that fund teachers in the public sector-that depends on how the states fund them
    Again, there is no death tax.... you are taking your own political rhetoric too seriously as the tax is a tax on estates. The reason this tax is skewed is that the upper incomes tend to have estates and poor do not.

    Moreover, the design of the income tax is to tax discretionary income thus there are a ton of exemptions, deductions and credits so that only discretionary income is taxed. Again, the lower half of our economic base has little to no discretionary income. Unfortunately this group is much harder hit in with payroll, gasoline, property and excise taxes than their counterparts in the upper tier. Our overall progressive tax system really isn't so progressive. From a progressive tax prospective, the upper incomes are NOT paying their fair share.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Again, there is no death tax.... you are taking your own political rhetoric too seriously as the tax is a tax on estates. The reason this tax is skewed is that the upper incomes tend to have estates and poor do not.

    Moreover, the design of the income tax is to tax discretionary income thus there are a ton of exemptions, deductions and credits so that only discretionary income is taxed. Again, the lower half of our economic base has little to no discretionary income. Unfortunately this group is much harder hit in with payroll, gasoline, property and excise taxes than their counterparts in the upper tier. Our overall progressive tax system really isn't so progressive. From a progressive tax prospective, the upper incomes are NOT paying their fair share.
    You seem reasonable and not the typical liberal so how about answering the question as to what you feel is the "fair share" that the rich should pay? From the IRS data here is what we have right now

    This relates to Federal Income taxes as that is the role of the IRS

    The top 1% of wage earners make 20% of all income and pay 38% of all taxes.
    The top 5% of wage earners make 34.7% of all income and pay 58.7% of all taxes.
    The top 10% of wage earners make 45.8% of all income and pay 69.9% of all taxes.

    The bottom 50% make 12.8% of all income and pay 2.7% of all taxes.

    Currently approximately 47% of all Americans pay nothing and actually get money back making their tax rate negative.

    Do you believe it is fair for 47% of the people NOT to pay any Federal Income tax? 38% of all Federal Income taxes come from the rich so apparently that isn't a fair share? Zero percent paid by income earners below 50,000 is fair?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Obviously lots of the American people simply do not agree with Walker or you.
    Or maybe they do.........

    Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American adults think labor unions have “too much influence on American life and politics today,” according to a recently released CBS News/New York Times poll. Only half as many (19%) believe that unions have too little influence.

    Twenty-nine percent (29%) say the level of influence is about right, while 15% are not sure.

    The survey of 984 adults was conducted February 24-27, 2011.

    The survey also finds a fairly even divide when it comes to assessing the motives of those “governors and state legislators” who “try to reduce the benefits of public employees.” By a narrow 45% to 41%, a modest plurality believes the primary motivation is to reduce budget deficits.

    A similar plurality finds that American adults prefer spending cuts over tax hikes as a way to reduce state budget deficits. Given a list of four options, 45% say their top choice is a reduction in spending, while 40% pick a tax hike. The spending options include 22% who pick a decrease in benefits for public employees, 20% who would rather see a decrease in funding for roads and three percent (3%) who opt for decreased funding for education.
    Plurality Says Labor Unions Have Too Much Influence According to CBS/NY Times Poll - Rasmussen Reports™

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    says the hater of half america who resorts to a poll from a dem outfit on the badger state gubernatorial TWO YEARS OUT

    LOL!
    Says the one who could find no polls to back up his position. LOL!

    All the polls show the same thing. People do not support ending collective bargaining.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Says the one who could find no polls to back up his position. LOL!

    All the polls show the same thing. People do not support ending collective bargaining.
    Apparently Obama doesn't believe in collective bargaining for Federal Union employees since he never offered up a bill that would have given them collective bargaining rights. He had total control of the govt. for two years and no legislation regarding public unions.

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